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[Charless Fowlkes <charless.fowlkes@xxxxxxxxx>]

> So set to 11-12 degree and go get your
> smog test.  Actually you should also scrub
> the throttle plate really clean first and also
> change the engine oil and spark plugs.

so the problem is that in california, they check the timing as 
part of the smog check.......the so called "functional check",
along with EGR valve etc. 

the timing has to be within something like 2 or 3 degrees 
of the factory spec or else you fail smog (regardless of 
what is actually comming out of the tail pipe)

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Why not check and adjust the engine idle RPM's first, they are different for 
both the MT and the AT, BEFORE you place the jumper,  to check that the 
computer has/will reset the timing, prior to tweeking the distributor, 
again, to bring the marks into proper position?  If you don't do the 
procedures in the correct order, you will end up placing your timing marks 
to coincide with manual specs, but your rpm's will be lowered and not high 
enough for the engine to run properly.  I have a 93 22-RE that runs like the 
day I rode it new off the lot, because I trust the computer to adjust the 
timing after I adjust the rpm's.  Its late at night folks, am I saying this 
the right way....is any of it making sense?  Hope so.  Good luck!


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> It does sound like you are following the factory manual
> procedures for setting the timing correctly; i.e
> jumping the check connector terminals with a piece
> of wire before setting the timing.
>
> But you don't really have to because if
> you set the timing to 11-12 degrees BTDC
> using your existing method, it will
> accomplish the same thing.
>
> So set to 11-12 degree and go get your
> smog test.  Actually you should also scrub
> the throttle plate really clean first and also
> change the engine oil and spark plugs.
>
> Paul Cherubini
> 4x4Wire.com Toyota Section http://www.4x4Wire.com/toyota/
> 


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>so the problem is that in california, they check the timing as
>part of the smog check.......the so called "functional check",
>along with EGR valve etc.
>
>the timing has to be within something like 2 or 3 degrees
>of the factory spec or else you fail smog (regardless of
>what is actually comming out of the tail pipe)

What is the cost of these inspections? They have been talking about it in 
TX for a few years and the "jiffy lube" place says there are going to go up 
significantly but does not know by how much.

John


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> >so the problem is that in california, they check the timing as
> >part of the smog check.......the so called "functional check",
> >along with EGR valve etc.
> >
> >the timing has to be within something like 2 or 3 degrees
> >of the factory spec or else you fail smog (regardless of
> >what is actually comming out of the tail pipe)
> 
> What is the cost of these inspections? They have been talking about it in
> TX for a few years and the "jiffy lube" place says there are going to go up
> significantly but does not know by how much.

they keep going up.  2 years ago it was closer to $50 but the
newer test means shops have to buy the dynanometer so the 
price was more like $70....more expensive than my registration 
renewal.