Re: TOY: Transmission oil mystery.....

[Steve Keene <stkeene@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes.  Yellow Long bed...  No longer driven to work,  because I have a 
company truck now.  So it's really just a weekend driver now... and 
garage kept.

So.. I've never tried taking the tranfer out alone before. However I 
have pulled the transmission about 3 times.  Will this require a trans 
jack?  I'll be working alone.  

Also, I assume this would be the NEW seal thats laying at the bottom. 
 Now I have to figure out a way to make it stay in.  I had this problem 
with the front main seal after replacing the oil pump.  The seal kept 
popping out.  Which reminds me,  I better go check that.


Jim Brink wrote:

>Steve,
>
>The oil CAN migrate from the transmission to the transfer case *IF* the
>rear transmission seal is leaking. Since the transfer case is
>essentially mated to the transmission by its extension housing, there is
>nowhere else for the oil to go other than the transfer case (it doesn't
>have a seal at the input shaft). 
>
>I'd be willing to bet that the transmission output seal is laying down
>in the space between the transmission an x-fer case. The fix involves
>pulling the transfer case to access the rear of the transmission.
>
>BTW, you still have that clean yellow long bed? :)
>
>Jim
>
>



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Last I checked my manual says that the transfer case
should have automatic transmission fluid not oil in it
(red in color). Manual transmission takes gear oil;
same as diffs. What you have is a rear seal on your
transmission is blown and your front seal on your
transfer case is blown also. You might what to see why
your transmission is making that much preassure to
blow both seals. 

Ray  
--- Steve Keene <stkeene@highstream.net> wrote:
> Lately I've been smelling gear oil after driving for
> a while.  I know 
> the seal on the rear diff leaks a bit so I went to
> add oil to it.  It 
> really wasn't that low.  Then I went up and pulled
> the filler plug on 
> the Transfer case and oil started pouring out like
> it was way over 
> filled.  Not the drain plug the filler plug up on
> the back to the right 
> of the output flange.  I put the plug back in and
> went over to the 
> transmission filler plug. Pulled it, stuck my finger
> in as far as I 
> could and couldn't get any oil.  So I pumped in all
> the rest that I had, 
> Not sure how much but enough to tire out my arm from
> pumping and it 
> still wasn't full.  
> 
> It really hasn't been leaking on the ground that I
> can see.  I had the 
> trans rebuilt about 3 years ago. I put the oil in
> myself.   What's going 
> on here?   Oil doesn't migrate between trans and
> transfer right?  Where 
> did the oil in the trans go and how can there be so
> much in the Transfer?
> 
> Steve Keene - Anaheim, CA
> 
> 4x4Wire.com Toyota Section
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    It's been a while since I asked for help to do the LSD on my 'T' but I
did finally get it done.
    As mentioned, I bought the unit from Jaffarian Volvo Toyota in Haverhill
Ma. using this site: http://www.toyotapartsworld.com/trdfebspcl.htm
@ $229.00 and a bearing and seal kit at http://store.summitracing.com/.
    As might be expected, and after help from the Summit experts, I received
the incorrect kit so had to take the extra time to swap out for the correct
item.  IIRC, the kit cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $179.00, and
included Timken bearings and everything else necessary except for a shim set
which was to be expected.
    The job was more than my experience level would allow so I found an
excellent local shop that did the entire job for just around $400.00
including proper shims from the local Toyota Dealer.
    So, for about $800.00, I now have LSD in my T, and with a set of new
Toyo Open Country A/T tires, I never needed to select the FWD option during
the last snow storm here in Connecticut.
    Thanks to all on the lists that helped me find the parts I needed and if
anybody is going to do this and want a more in-depth experience from me,
please ask.

Dick Seng
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A trans jack might help a little, but I did the transfer case on my truck by myself.  I was just swapping it out, so I lifted it down and to the side and then lifted the other one up and in place.  I wasn't completely alone though, I don't know if I would do it with no one around.

The biggest pain in the butt is holding it in place and trying to get a bolt started in.  Good to have another hand for that.

It's not really that heavy though.

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Subject:	Re: TOY: Transmission oil mystery.....

Yes.  Yellow Long bed...  No longer driven to work,  because I have a 
company truck now.  So it's really just a weekend driver now... and 
garage kept.

So.. I've never tried taking the tranfer out alone before. However I 
have pulled the transmission about 3 times.  Will this require a trans 
jack?  I'll be working alone.  

Also, I assume this would be the NEW seal thats laying at the bottom. 
 Now I have to figure out a way to make it stay in.  I had this problem 
with the front main seal after replacing the oil pump.  The seal kept 
popping out.  Which reminds me,  I better go check that.


Jim Brink wrote:

>Steve,
>
>The oil CAN migrate from the transmission to the transfer case *IF* the
>rear transmission seal is leaking. Since the transfer case is
>essentially mated to the transmission by its extension housing, there is
>nowhere else for the oil to go other than the transfer case (it doesn't
>have a seal at the input shaft). 
>
>I'd be willing to bet that the transmission output seal is laying down
>in the space between the transmission an x-fer case. The fix involves
>pulling the transfer case to access the rear of the transmission.
>
>BTW, you still have that clean yellow long bed? :)
>
>Jim
>
>


4x4Wire.com Toyota Section http://www.4x4Wire.com/toyota/



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Same thing happened to me. W56 5-speed tranny. In my
case, the seal on the output shaft on the transmission
was driven in too far. It should be flush. As Jim
pointed out, there is no seal on the input shaft of
the transfercase, in fact, the bearings are right
there exposed and oil can pass right through them. My
transfer case got so full of oil it started coming out
the top around the shifter.

The seal was hard to find. The dealers in my area had
to special order it. Napa had it. Autozone's reference
manual shows the wrong seal. I'd get the Toyota one
because the Napa one was not that good of quality.

I was able to remove the t-case myself without using a
jack. It is not too heavy. As mentioned putting it
back in is more of a challenge, and you certainly do
not want to damage your newly-replaced seal. A helper
would be a good idea.

The standard, gear driven transfer case takes gear
oil.

Hi Jim!

Mike 

--- Steve Keene <stkeene@highstream.net> wrote:
> Yes.  Yellow Long bed...  No longer driven to work, 
> because I have a 
> company truck now.  So it's really just a weekend
> driver now... and 
> garage kept.
> 
> So.. I've never tried taking the tranfer out alone
> before. However I 
> have pulled the transmission about 3 times.  Will
> this require a trans 
> jack?  I'll be working alone.  
> 
> Also, I assume this would be the NEW seal thats
> laying at the bottom. 
>  Now I have to figure out a way to make it stay in. 
> I had this problem 
> with the front main seal after replacing the oil
> pump.  The seal kept 
> popping out.  Which reminds me,  I better go check
> that.
> 
> 
> Jim Brink wrote:
> 
> >Steve,
> >
> >The oil CAN migrate from the transmission to the
> transfer case *IF* the
> >rear transmission seal is leaking. Since the
> transfer case is
> >essentially mated to the transmission by its
> extension housing, there is
> >nowhere else for the oil to go other than the
> transfer case (it doesn't
> >have a seal at the input shaft). 
> >
> >I'd be willing to bet that the transmission output
> seal is laying down
> >in the space between the transmission an x-fer
> case. The fix involves
> >pulling the transfer case to access the rear of the
> transmission.
> >
> >BTW, you still have that clean yellow long bed? :)
> >
> >Jim
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 4x4Wire.com Toyota Section
http://www.4x4Wire.com/toyota/


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