Re: TOY: Calico Trip - So. CA

[Thom Singer <ntsqd@xxxxxxxxx>]

Brandon, 2wd Lo is good enough for 90+% of what's out there. Coming ?

Mike, let's camp in Mule or Phillips Cyns. That should make camp easy
for people to find. I have a rough map I can distribute off-list if
need be. How about the wide spot on the right in Phillips just past the
turn-off out of Mule ?

--- Mike Carter <thecarterman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Leo Castaneda e-mailed me that he is coming. Danny
> Gomez probabaly can't make it. Craig is not sure yet.
> 
> Mike
> 
> --- Thom Singer <ntsqd@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > So far Mike is the only person to give me any
> > feedback. It's really
> > hard to plan a trip when I don't know if we're going
> > to be two vehicles
> > or 20 vehicles. I'm willing to make this trip, but
> > it comes at a time
> > when I probably shouldn't be spending the money
> > after being in Baja for
> > the week of the 1000. If I can't get a couple more
> > commitments I'll
> > have to bail on the trip. I must say I had a much
> > easier time putting
> > together a similar trip on the So. CA Early Bronco
> > list, and they knew
> > I'd be driving a Toyota.
> > 
> > Haskell is aware of it, he shotgunned the Baja trip.
> > Doubt he'll make
> > it. Craig may recall my mentioning it, but if  we
> > are going to go I'll
> > have to call him again.
> > 
> > --- Mike Carter <thecarterman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > They have been notified.
> > > 
> > > My vote would be to *not* camp at the Ghost town. 
> > > 
> > > Thom, are you going to invite Haskell and Craig?
> > > 
> > > Mike
> > > 
> > > --- Thom Singer <ntsqd@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > OK, if this is still going to happen I need to
> > know
> > > > who is considering
> > > > going. Brandon or Mike, Has this trip been
> > opened up
> > > > to GCC ? If not,
> > > > please do so.
> > > > This is a really interesting area with lots to
> > see
> > > > and do. There are
> > > > only two trails that I wouldn't take a stock
> > truck
> > > > over, and I did not
> > > > intend to run them. All levels of vehicle
> > > > modification are welcome.
> > > > I would plan on it being cold this time of year.
> > > > Current forecast is
> > > > for mid 60's during the day and high 30's during
> > the
> > > > nights.
> > > > 
> > > > --- Thom Singer <ntsqd@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > Just to confirm, this is the date that has
> > been
> > > > set. If you are even
> > > > > thinking about going let me know so I've got
> > some
> > > > idea of how many
> > > > > might be going. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > There are showers in the Ghost Town
> > campgrounds. I
> > > > don't normally
> > > > > camp
> > > > > there, but we could. LEt's hear what people
> > think.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > --- Thom Singer <ntsqd@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Last I had it we were planning on doing
> > this
> > > > trip
> > > > > > > Dec. 14 & 15, is that
> > > > > > > right ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > =====
> > > > > TS
> > > > > Ventura, CA
> > > > > 
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> > stupid."
> > > > > -- Howdy Lee
> > > > > 
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Anybody have any ideas why an exhaust manifold would be so hot it glowed 
orange while the rest of the engine was at the proper operating temperature? 
EGR or timing have been suggested so far. Any ideas? (It's an '88 22re)


Thanks,
Kerry White




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My guesses are either it's running lean or the timing is late
(retarded). If performance is poor it might be a plugged or partly
plugged cat or muffler.

--- Kerry White <kerry_e_white@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Anybody have any ideas why an exhaust manifold would be so hot it
> glowed 
> orange while the rest of the engine was at the proper operating
> temperature? 
> EGR or timing have been suggested so far. Any ideas? (It's an '88
> 22re)
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Kerry White
> 
> 
> 
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Quoting Kerry White <kerry_e_white@hotmail.com>:

>  
> Anybody have any ideas why an exhaust manifold would be so 
> hot it glowed orange while the rest of the engine was at 
> the proper operating temperature? 
> EGR or timing have been suggested so far. 
> Any ideas? (It's an '88 22re)
> 
> Thanks,
> Kerry White

Is the Cat partially clogged?
That is the first thing that comes to my mind at midnight this Turkey day.
HTH's

~ Dee

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Well..,

Could be running lean since I know my TPS is bad, and O2 sensor is probably 
bad also, but it sure doesn't smell lean. The exhaust pipe is just hanging 
loose from the front of the cat though, so cat or muffler have no effect, 
unless lack of backpressure could be the cause? Timing may be slightly off, 
I'm going to check in the morning. I was told that advanced timing could 
cause this but it would seem that delayed timing could cause the burn to be 
incomplete when the exhaust valve opens allowing a little fire to escape and 
heat up the exhaust manifold, I don't know why advanced timing would cause 
it. EGR may also be malfunctioning, I know that the purposes of EGR are to 
reduce emissions and lower combustion chamber temperature, but even if it 
were never on it shouldn't make that much difference should it?

I know I can find out whats wrong if I had time, I have the FSM and know how 
to troubleshoot, but my weekends filled with a term paper, community 
service, and baby watching. Any suggestions/words of wisdom greatly 
appreciated :)

Thanks,
Kerry White


>
>My guesses are either it's running lean or the timing is late
>(retarded). If performance is poor it might be a plugged or partly
>plugged cat or muffler.
>
>--- Kerry White <kerry_e_white@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Anybody have any ideas why an exhaust manifold would be so hot it
> > glowed
> > orange while the rest of the engine was at the proper operating
> > temperature?
> > EGR or timing have been suggested so far. Any ideas? (It's an '88
> > 22re)
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Kerry White
> >
> >
> >


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