TOY: Re: found at least part of it, was: Trouble code help

[Thom Singer <ntsqd@xxxxxxxxx>]

Found the plug & jumped it with the key on. No fuel coming out of the
damper's boss. Can hear a relay clicking, so it looks like I get to
drop the tank. yehaaaaaa.........

--- Thom Singer <ntsqd@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks to both of you for pointing this out. I'll try it and see if I
> get fuel pressure. I'll also have a look at the schematic and see if
> it's direct to the pump or just triggers the relay.
> 
> --- BudBuilt <bud@budbuilt.com> wrote:
> >  I would expect to
> > > hear the fuel pump run when it is first turned on to pressuize
> the
> > > injector rail. I don't hear it do anything. A friend pulled the
> > filler
> > > cap and with his ear to the opening still did not hear anything.
> > Makes
> > > me suspicious of a dead fuel pump, but I figured to pursue the
> > trouble
> > > codes until they are clear.
> > 
> > One more thing Thom!
> > there is a T shaped plug, on the front left fender well, near the 2
> > round
> > test plugs.  Short those 2 terminals on the T connector and with
> the
> > key
> > on,the fuel pump should run.  Also check the ground on the fuel
> pump,
> > they
> > corrode off around here fairly commonly...
> > hth!
> > Bud
> > 
> > 
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> 
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is 17+volts at the fuel pump normal for an 89 22re?


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Quoting Ray Lagrant <hoffa@attbi.com>:

> is 17+volts at the fuel pump normal for an 89 22re?
> 

=> Hi Ray,
I would expect to measure somewhere between 12VDC and 14.5VDC
(depending if the engine is running / charging or not)

Was your measurement of 17+ VDC the voltage going to the pump 
with the engine running? (if so, that sounds a bit high to me)

Have you checked your voltage regulator or possibly the alternator
to verify that your charging system is indeed functioning properly?
HTH's,

~ Dee
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From: "Russ Wylie" <broknyota@hotmail.com>
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thanks for the help guys...

didn't need to mill the head it was flat and i figured i didn't need to give 
myself the headaches.  the 22r is now running.. timing is off, gonna go home 
with and use my dads timing light, too poor to afford one after the buying 
the head gasket and beer for the helpers.

one of my valves is ticking.. I adjusted them to factory specs .008 and 
.012.  Still ticks kinda hard, any suggestions?  The head was new 40,000 
ago.  I'm gonna recheck the valves when i get home this weekend.  I'm 
spending too much time at work, this coop with remington is busy.....


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> > is 17+volts at the fuel pump normal for an 89 22re?
> >
>I would expect to measure somewhere between 12VDC and 14.5VDC
>(depending if the engine is running / charging or not)
>
>Was your measurement of 17+ VDC the voltage going to the pump
>with the engine running? (if so, that sounds a bit high to me)
>
>Have you checked your voltage regulator or possibly the alternator
>to verify that your charging system is indeed functioning properly?
>HTH's,
>
>~ Dee

Are you getting the same thing at the batt? I would think so and that would 
seem pretty hard on the battery.

BTW, The dash voltage gauge on my 86 seems to always run high with the 
engine running and much lower with it off. Made me worry I was burning up 
battery's with the alt rather than the Texas heat. Measured voltage is 
~12.5 off / 14.3 running -- defiantly not in line with what the dash gauge 
indicates.

Any recommendations on an inexpensive but accurate digital or analog 
multi-meter type gauge? Would prefer a simple two wire setup that was 
powered by the batt and always on. I don't think this would draw to much power?

John


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Bud wrote:
> One more thing Thom!
> there is a T shaped plug, on the front left fender well, near the 2 round
> test plugs.  Short those 2 terminals on the T connector and with the key
> on,the fuel pump should run.  Also check the ground on the fuel pump, they
> corrode off around here fairly commonly...

See:
	http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4x4/CheapTricks/index.shtml#FuelPump

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Is it possible to remove the keys from the crankshaft without ruining them? 
(The ones that are under the oil pump drive spline and main pulley)



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> Is it possible to remove the keys from the crankshaft without ruining
them?
> (The ones that are under the oil pump drive spline and main pulley)
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kerry
>
>
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How? I used a screwdriver and hammer to push and rotate one out, but it 
ruined it.



>
>yup
>
>>
> > Is it possible to remove the keys from the crankshaft without ruining
>them?
> > (The ones that are under the oil pump drive spline and main pulley)
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Kerry
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> >


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    Trying to conquer a tailgate rattle I have on my 4Runner.  After a call 
& a visit to my local dealer they were able to find the anti-rattle clips.  
These are those plastic interlock clips that always seem to get broken, but 
I have no doubt help the rattling that occurs in the tailgate.   Along with 
that and the outer seal is dried to a crisp (going to replace it too).


  Anything else I should look into to get rid of the annoying tailgate 
rattle?

- Scott
92 4Runner SR5 V6 5SPD
previously owned 4x4s: '87 4 Runner, '92 xCab Truck, & '96 4 Runner



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Hey guys,

I don't post often, but just the other day I noticed that my sunroof latch
(the red piece) had broken... so now the sunroof won't stay open.

The dealership doesn't know what P/N that is... all he could find is the
"locking mechanism" and it's not available.  Any ideas?

It's a 92 V6 4x4 Truck, manual sunroof.

I'd appreciate any input.

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> How? I used a screwdriver and hammer to push and rotate one out, but it 
> ruined it.
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >yup
> >
> >>
> > > Is it possible to remove the keys from the crankshaft without ruining
> >them?
> > > (The ones that are under the oil pump drive spline and main pulley)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Kerry
> > >
> > >
> 
> 
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fuel pump voltage should be around 14.5 , the same as
battery volts. did you check voltage at the batt?
 sounds like a faulty regulator or a grounded rotor in
the alt.
--- Ray Lagrant <hoffa@attbi.com> wrote:
> is 17+volts at the fuel pump normal for an 89 22re?
> 
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I've used a semi dull cold chisel (& care!!) to remove really stubborn
ones. For the not so stubborn ones Vice-Grips will usually remove them.

Hey, darren, I recognize that ISP. Old timers may recall my being
ntsqd@shocking.com. That was b4 I moved from Chico. those were the
days......

--- darren <dps444@shocking.com> wrote:
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> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kerry White" <kerry_e_white@hotmail.com>
> To: <toyota@4x4Wire.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 4:23 PM
> Subject: Re: TOY: Re: Crankshaft Key Removal?
> 
> 
> > How? I used a screwdriver and hammer to push and rotate one out,
> but it 
> > ruined it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > >yup
> > >
> > >>
> > > > Is it possible to remove the keys from the crankshaft without
> ruining
> > >them?
> > > > (The ones that are under the oil pump drive spline and main
> pulley)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Kerry
> > > >
> > > >
> > 
> > 
> > _________________________________________________________________
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> 
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lol, shocking has been a very good isp for the last month or so I have had
it! my old isp...bigvalley dissconnected me 5 to 10 times a day, now I
rarely get dissconnected at all ever:)



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> ntsqd@shocking.com. That was b4 I moved from Chico. those were the
> days......
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Quoting scott rowin <amigoaz@hotmail.com>:

> 
> 
  Trying to conquer a tailgate rattle I have on my 4Runner.  
>After a call & a visit to my local dealer they were able to 
>find the anti-rattle clips.  
> These are those plastic interlock clips that always seem to get broken,
> but I have no doubt help the rattling that occurs in the tailgate.   
>Along with that and the outer seal is dried to a crisp 
>(going to replace it too).
> 
>   Anything else I should look into to get rid of the annoying tailgate
> 
> rattle?
> 
> - Scott
> 92 4Runner SR5 V6 5SPD
> previously owned 4x4s: '87 4 Runner, '92 xCab Truck, & '96 4 Runner
> 

=> Hey Scott,
unless you are positive that the rattle is from the tailgate itself
then you might want to try my "cheap-trick" for stopping the 4Runner 
rear gate rattle.

On every 4Runner I have owned, which consisted of:
 2- 1986 4Runners (1 manual trans. & 1 Auto trans. both 22RE)
 1- 1985 4Runner
 1- 1991 4Runner
(including Bouncing-Betty, my 1984 4Runner).
BTW: Bouncing-Betty is getting closer to operational again! ;^)
Just gotta get all of those multi-colored wires connected to sumthin' I reckon.

I would hear an annoying rattle from the rear of the vehicle.
 After much trouble shooting it was narrowed down to the folding supports
for the rear tailgate. I was not about to pay for the plastic "dealer"
replacement parts. 
=> Instead I went to my local hardware store and bought two commode washers.
Yes, that's right!  :-)
The rubber washers used to secure the toilet to the floor of your house.
Total cost: .48 plus tax

Just unscrew the large phillips head screw from the body insert one
of the rubber washers and replace the screw. Rattle Stopped!
-> [this would be a 1/2 Bananna job]  ;-)
HTH's, Good Luck!

~ Dee
M.D. Smith, V   RCRC #31  TLCA #7039
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Finally got them out, ruined 1 but only needed 2 of 3. Had to grind them so 
the oil drive spline would slide on. Got the timing cover on today with 
unexpected difficulty, the head is already on so the front part of the 
headgasket was hanging down and kept getting in the way till the timing 
cover gaskets started falling off, finally found ot how to get it on but I 
expect a leak, so in my week after inspection I'll probably get to pull the 
radiator etc. and fix that..
Makin progress though! And it does look good, although maybe a little too 
colorful.


Thanks,

Kerry

>
>I've used a semi dull cold chisel (& care!!) to remove really stubborn
>ones. For the not so stubborn ones Vice-Grips will usually remove them.
>
>
>--- darren <dps444@shocking.com> wrote:
> > I use a nail
> >
> >
> > > How? I used a screwdriver and hammer to push and rotate one out,
> > but it
> > > ruined it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >yup
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > > > Is it possible to remove the keys from the crankshaft without
> > ruining
> > > >them?
> > > > > (The ones that are under the oil pump drive spline and main
> > pulley)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Kerry
> > > > >


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Bit the bullet and bought a NAPA pump for it. Has the name Carter on
the side of the actual pump, so that made me feel pretty good about the
quality of the pump. Dropping the tank wasn't nearly as bad as I thot
it would be. This truck is amazing, there was a light coating of dust
on the top of the tank and no mud in any nooks or crannies. The PO told
me he'd taken it off road, so the cherry has been popped but you'd be
hard pressed to tell.
Anyway, after a little cranking it lit off and idled. Has a shudder to
the idle when standing still in gear. I suspect that's a function of
the TPS code and possibly too low of an idle speed. Those are next.
This puts me in a dilemma about what to do with it, Patch, or both. Oh
well, there's far worse dilemmas.....

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