Re: TOY: sandblast timing cover?

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Subject: Re: TOY: sandblast timing cover?
From: "Kerry White" <kerry_e_white@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:19:17 -0500
Thanks Thom! I guess I won't blast them then. They don't need it for 
performance reasons, I got most of the corrosion out with a shotgun bore 
brush. If you hadn't responded, I was going to drop them off at the machine 
shop to be blasted this morning, and they would have blasted everything 
including the O-ring groove.
So you saved me!
Thanks

Kerry White


>
>You don't want to blast the O-ring groove at all. The machined surface
>is needed to seal. If you do blast it, you'll want to carefully scrape
>it or lap it smooth again.
>While you've got the cover off check to see that the water passage
>corrosion isn't in danger of eating thru into the crankcase. I would
>mask the timing chain region with duct tape and carefully blast the
>water passage. If you have any doubt about the corrsion, get another
>one or have that one welded up.
>
>Once you have the aluminum parts clean you can spray them with Harley
>Engine Case paint if you want to keep the dull aluminum finish w/o the
>maintenence.
>
>--- Kerry White <kerry_e_white@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I can't decide on whether it'd be a good idea to blast my timing
> > cover or
> > not. It could use the cleaning, especially in the water passageways
> > were
> > there is some built up corrosion.
> > ->But I'm afraid that with a rougher surface for the oil pump O-ring,
> > it
> > might leak<-
> > I think that sandblasting the valve cover, intake manifold, and air
> > intake
> > chamber won't hurt them at all.
> >
> > I have a remanufactured long block that I'm putting in, I've painted
> > the
> > block and all the iron parts, but have only wire brushed the aluminum
> > parts,
> > and would sure like them to look as good as the rest.
> > Any comments are welcome and appreciated. :)
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Kerry
> >


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Subject: TOY: A/C stuff for sale (Was: 90 4Runner A/C install?)
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John-

I saw on the Wild Yoats web page, a complete A/C system for sale.  It was
out of a '93, but I bet it'll work.  It said complete system.  Asking $450.
Here's the page http://www.wildyoats.com/board/?topic=topic2&msg=716
It didn't list a name or number, so you'll probably have to post a reply on
the BB.


Matt Thompson
Salt Lake City, Utah



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Subject: TOY: 22re fuel delivery problem
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I had a problem this weekend with my 85 4Runner and was wondering if
anyone has had a similar problem.  The truck has 5.29s, 35" BFGs, and a
stock engine.  The air temperature was right at 100 degrees F.  We started
at 4500 feet and went up to over 9000 (southern Colorado).

We ran down the Interstate for about 20 miles.  I had it floored the whole
time to keep it at or around 70 mph.  After exiting the interstate and
going onto a state highway with a slight incline towards the mountains, I
noticed the truck starting to chug or miss at half to full throttle.  It
got progressively worse until I could only open the throttle about 1/8
open without it bogging.  We managed to make it up to our campsite, but it
was a struggle.  By the time we got there it would barely idle and when it
died it only started with much cranking.  This whole time there was a
heavy smell of fuel.  The next morning, after it sat all night, it started
reluctantly but ran fine all the way home.  The air temperature was cooler
and the route home was mostly downhill, so I didn't have to floor it the
whole time.

The truck has 140,000 miles and the fuel filter has not been changed. 
I'll start with this, though I doubt that's the problem as it ran fine the
next day.  Same for the fuel pump - why would it have problems one day and
be okay the next?  Is this a common 22re problem area?

Vapor lock?  With EFI?  If so, why didn't it clear out when I was
descending?  I wasn't going uphill the entire way up to the campsite;
there were some long downhills that I think should have allowed the fuel
system to cool off.  On other cars that vapor locked, it cleared out
quickly.

Obviously I need a 4.3 or a Supra engine so I don't have to drive around
wide open just to make freeway speeds; however, that isn't going to happen
right away so I'll probably just replace the muffler and cat so I get a
'little' more power to run on the highway.

Just curious what others have seen,

Allan



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John wrote:

> >he was winching him out, though it was to slow, said he started pulling him
> >in reverse and "BANG"............
>
> Thanks for the reply's. I will avoid this unless life is at risk.
>
> Now a question about winching (I don't have one yet). I would guess that
> when winching someone else out, it would be best to secure you vehicle with
> the brakes rather than the drivetrain?, but this would require and extra
> foot in the cab. Better still would be to a fixed object. Next best would
> be pulling with a front mounted winch and the truck in 1st gear / 4 low
> (bad for battery because engine would have to be off)? Rear mounted winch
> would be bad in this situation because you would be putting the same stress
> on the drivetrain as pulling in reverse?
>
> I am thinking about a reasonably light / not to expensive winch mounted so
> I can slip it into a receiver hitch and probably 6 gauge wire and jumper
> cable clips to attach to the battery. Looking for something that is not
> permanent and portable. Any thoughts or suggestions?
>
> I am new to the list so hope this is not something that has been discussed
> to death recently.
>

one, 6 gauge is slightly small.

when i setup my removable quick mount system for my warn 9000xdi, i wanted
overkill.

this involved 1/0 gauge welding cable.  i bought 50 feet to run from the front
batt to the rear using 250 amp connectors from wrangler prodiucts.

also, my winch mount was made from a frame off a ford 350 series so that's over
kill too.  now the weakest link in the winch system is the 4 grade5 bolts that
WARN provides to bolt the winch into its mount...

btw, when i winch, i leave in neutral (have an auto tranny) since in park, you
might break of that pawl in there and leave yourself stuck.  i also keep a high
idle to keep the juices flowing as muich as possible.  of course having a top
notch battery helps (a red topper optima).

the yes, the 2 times i had to winch using the rear mount was to save my own butt
(pun intended...)

downside?  winch in the mount is close to 150 pounds...

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ldivinag@csuhayward.edu



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Subject: TOY: RE: 22re fuel delivery problem
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I had a similar problem, what got my attention was the mention of the fuel
smell... There's a little device at the end of the fuel rail called a fuel
dampener. Mine was leaking fuel and looked to be causing fuel delivery
problems. I bought a new one (something like $80!!!), installed it, and then
decided to open the old one up and look at it. There's a small screw with a
little rubber o-ring or gasket that had vibrated loose and was allowing the
fuel to leak. You have to get the plastic cover off, then you can get at the
screw. Not sure if this would have fixed it, but I put it back together and
now it's in the "spares" box...

I had numerous fuel delivery problems... and after replacing the fuel
dampener, fuel pump, fuel filter, and fixing (yes, FIXING) the TPS it's
working fine now.

Hope this helps

Marc Sahr


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I had a problem this weekend with my 85 4Runner and was wondering if
anyone has had a similar problem.  The truck has 5.29s, 35" BFGs, and a
stock engine.  The air temperature was right at 100 degrees F.  We started
at 4500 feet and went up to over 9000 (southern Colorado).

We ran down the Interstate for about 20 miles.  I had it floored the whole
time to keep it at or around 70 mph.  After exiting the interstate and
going onto a state highway with a slight incline towards the mountains, I
noticed the truck starting to chug or miss at half to full throttle.  It
got progressively worse until I could only open the throttle about 1/8
open without it bogging.  We managed to make it up to our campsite, but it
was a struggle.  By the time we got there it would barely idle and when it
died it only started with much cranking.  This whole time there was a
heavy smell of fuel.  The next morning, after it sat all night, it started
reluctantly but ran fine all the way home.  The air temperature was cooler
and the route home was mostly downhill, so I didn't have to floor it the
whole time.

The truck has 140,000 miles and the fuel filter has not been changed.
I'll start with this, though I doubt that's the problem as it ran fine the
next day.  Same for the fuel pump - why would it have problems one day and
be okay the next?  Is this a common 22re problem area?

Vapor lock?  With EFI?  If so, why didn't it clear out when I was
descending?  I wasn't going uphill the entire way up to the campsite;
there were some long downhills that I think should have allowed the fuel
system to cool off.  On other cars that vapor locked, it cleared out
quickly.

Obviously I need a 4.3 or a Supra engine so I don't have to drive around
wide open just to make freeway speeds; however, that isn't going to happen
right away so I'll probably just replace the muffler and cat so I get a
'little' more power to run on the highway.

Just curious what others have seen,

Allan


4x4Wire.com Toyota Section http://www.4x4Wire.com/toyota/


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Subject: Re: TOY: Re: Pulling someone out in reverse - now winching question
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6 ga. is definitely too small, especially for the length of cable run
to the rear bumper. I used 2ga. for a 2500 lbs stall winch on the Dune
Buggy. I can't find my Anchor Marine catalog, it has a nomograph in it
for figuring out what size wire to use for more normal loads but it can
be extrapolated for winch type loads. I used that to arrive at the 2
ga. for the DB's winch.
1/0 sounds a little light for the rear bumper run, should be OK for the
front. Ask the winch maker what they recommend for the distance
involved.

--- "leo g. divinagracia iii" <ldivinag@csuhayward.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> John wrote:
> 
> > >he was winching him out, though it was to slow, said he started
> pulling him
> > >in reverse and "BANG"............
> >
> > Thanks for the reply's. I will avoid this unless life is at risk.
> >
> > Now a question about winching (I don't have one yet). I would guess
> that
> > when winching someone else out, it would be best to secure you
> vehicle with
> > the brakes rather than the drivetrain?, but this would require and
> extra
> > foot in the cab. Better still would be to a fixed object. Next best
> would
> > be pulling with a front mounted winch and the truck in 1st gear / 4
> low
> > (bad for battery because engine would have to be off)? Rear mounted
> winch
> > would be bad in this situation because you would be putting the
> same stress
> > on the drivetrain as pulling in reverse?
> >
> > I am thinking about a reasonably light / not to expensive winch
> mounted so
> > I can slip it into a receiver hitch and probably 6 gauge wire and
> jumper
> > cable clips to attach to the battery. Looking for something that is
> not
> > permanent and portable. Any thoughts or suggestions?
> >
> > I am new to the list so hope this is not something that has been
> discussed
> > to death recently.
> >
> 
> one, 6 gauge is slightly small.
> 
> when i setup my removable quick mount system for my warn 9000xdi, i
> wanted
> overkill.
> 
> this involved 1/0 gauge welding cable.  i bought 50 feet to run from
> the front
> batt to the rear using 250 amp connectors from wrangler prodiucts.
> 
> also, my winch mount was made from a frame off a ford 350 series so
> that's over
> kill too.  now the weakest link in the winch system is the 4 grade5
> bolts that
> WARN provides to bolt the winch into its mount...
> 
> btw, when i winch, i leave in neutral (have an auto tranny) since in
> park, you
> might break of that pawl in there and leave yourself stuck.  i also
> keep a high
> idle to keep the juices flowing as muich as possible.  of course
> having a top
> notch battery helps (a red topper optima).
> 
> the yes, the 2 times i had to winch using the rear mount was to save
> my own butt
> (pun intended...)
> 
> downside?  winch in the mount is close to 150 pounds...
> 
> --
> Leo G. Divinagracia III
> ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
> 
> 
> 4x4Wire.com Toyota Section http://www.4x4Wire.com/toyota/


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So I got this truck home last week and finally had time to look at it
tonight. Put two gallons of fuel in just in case the gauge is up to the
usual yota tricks. All of the fuses for the EFI and engine either look
or test good. Looked up how to pull trouble codes in my 84 FSM and got
the light to flash. Only problem is my 84 FSM only lists 7 codes and
I'm getting eleven flashes. So, someone with an 85 FSM please give me
the bad news, what does it think is wrong ?
Oh yea, still cranks, but no start and no sound of the fuel pump
priming the system. No sound of the fuel pump running at all. I do hear
a relay over near the computer click when I turn the key to the crank
position.

> > > --- Thom Singer <ntsqd@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Get paid today. Get to turn it into cash and
> > spend
> > > > it all in one place.
> > > > Last Friday I gave a guy a deposit on a near
> > virgin
> > > > 85 Xtra Cab with
> > > > EFI. He's selling because it doesn't run. Said
> > it
> > > > acted like it was
> > > > running out of fuel with 1/8 tank in it, the
> > check
> > > > engine light came
> > > > on, and then it just stopped. No sounds of the
> > pump
> > > > priming the system,
> > > > but it does crank. I'm gambling that it set a
> > code.
> > > > There are two small dents in it, bed has never
> > been
> > > > used to haul
> > > > anything more than dogs. Comes with a color
> > matched
> > > > shell. No rust to
> > > > be seen anywhere in the bed.
> > > > It's kind of a strange truck. It's a striper,
> > rubber
> > > > floor mats, split
> > > > bench seat, low end gauge cluster, no clock,
> > etc.,
> > > > but it has an auto
> > > > trans and the double walled bed. I'm not sure
> > what
> > > > I'm going to do
> > > > about the auto trans. I can't decide if this is
> > the
> > > > daily driver or
> > > > will replace Patch. Or if I'll fix it and sell
> > it at
> > > > market value.
> > > > 
> > > > The Marlin doubler that was put in my friend's
> > > > since-sold Supercharged
> > > > 3.4 T-100 with an auto may be coming my way.
> > Seems
> > > > the current owner
> > > > had a Jiffy Lube type place do all of the lubes
> > and
> > > > they didn't refill
> > > > the front box. Their mechanic is telling them to
> > > > just put it back to
> > > > stock. Things inside the Crawler may not be all
> > that
> > > > great, but at
> > > > least I'd get both adapter plates. If that does
> > come
> > > > my way, that will
> > > > decide this truck's future.
> > > > 
> > > > =====
> > > > TS
> > > > Ventura, CA
> > > > 
> > > > "Teach you all I know and you're still stupid."
> > > > -- Howdy Lee
> > > > 
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