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Re: west coast trips, was: TOY: Well, now I done it......
- To: toyota@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: west coast trips, was: TOY: Well, now I done it......
- From: Mike Carter <thecarterman@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:13:47 -0700 (PDT)
- In-Reply-To: <20020716040817.55992.qmail@web11308.mail.yahoo.com>
Count me in.
--- Thom Singer <ntsqd@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I've got several potential trips in the works for
> once things cool off
> out there a little. We ought to put together a trip
> to Calico for the
> west coasters on the list. Any takers ?
>
> --- Mike Carter <thecarterman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Sweet deal Thom! I'm jealous, someday I'd like to
> find
> > a good deal on a fixer-upper to make into a more
> > dedicated trail rig.
> >
> > On the Mariln case, does it have two fill plugs?
> My
> > 4-cylinder one only uses the rear fill plug, and
> the
> > oil flows forward into the front box. Is the one
> for
> > the auto tranny different?
> >
> > We have to go wheeling again sometime!
> >
> > --- Thom Singer <ntsqd@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Get paid today. Get to turn it into cash and
> spend
> > > it all in one place.
> > > Last Friday I gave a guy a deposit on a near
> virgin
> > > 85 Xtra Cab with
> > > EFI. He's selling because it doesn't run. Said
> it
> > > acted like it was
> > > running out of fuel with 1/8 tank in it, the
> check
> > > engine light came
> > > on, and then it just stopped. No sounds of the
> pump
> > > priming the system,
> > > but it does crank. I'm gambling that it set a
> code.
> > > There are two small dents in it, bed has never
> been
> > > used to haul
> > > anything more than dogs. Comes with a color
> matched
> > > shell. No rust to
> > > be seen anywhere in the bed.
> > > It's kind of a strange truck. It's a striper,
> rubber
> > > floor mats, split
> > > bench seat, low end gauge cluster, no clock,
> etc.,
> > > but it has an auto
> > > trans and the double walled bed. I'm not sure
> what
> > > I'm going to do
> > > about the auto trans. I can't decide if this is
> the
> > > daily driver or
> > > will replace Patch. Or if I'll fix it and sell
> it at
> > > market value.
> > >
> > > The Marlin doubler that was put in my friend's
> > > since-sold Supercharged
> > > 3.4 T-100 with an auto may be coming my way.
> Seems
> > > the current owner
> > > had a Jiffy Lube type place do all of the lubes
> and
> > > they didn't refill
> > > the front box. Their mechanic is telling them to
> > > just put it back to
> > > stock. Things inside the Crawler may not be all
> that
> > > great, but at
> > > least I'd get both adapter plates. If that does
> come
> > > my way, that will
> > > decide this truck's future.
> > >
> > > =====
> > > TS
> > > Ventura, CA
> > >
> > > "Teach you all I know and you're still stupid."
> > > -- Howdy Lee
> > >
> > >
> __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes
> > > http://autos.yahoo.com
> > > 4x4Wire.com Toyota Section
> > http://www.4x4Wire.com/toyota/
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes
> > http://autos.yahoo.com
> > 4x4Wire.com Toyota Section
> http://www.4x4Wire.com/toyota/
>
>
> =====
> TS
> Ventura, CA
>
> "Teach you all I know and you're still stupid."
> -- Howdy Lee
>
> __________________________________________________
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> Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes
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Subject: RE: west coast trips, was: TOY: Well, now I done it......
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:54:35 -0700
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Not to sound to stupid but, where is Calico?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-toyota@4x4Wire.com [mailto:owner-toyota@4x4Wire.com]On
Behalf Of Mike Carter
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:14 AM
To: toyota@4x4Wire.com
Subject: Re: west coast trips, was: TOY: Well, now I done it......
Count me in.
--- Thom Singer <ntsqd@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I've got several potential trips in the works for
> once things cool off
> out there a little. We ought to put together a trip
> to Calico for the
> west coasters on the list. Any takers ?
>
> --- Mike Carter <thecarterman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Sweet deal Thom! I'm jealous, someday I'd like to
> find
> > a good deal on a fixer-upper to make into a more
> > dedicated trail rig.
> >
> > On the Mariln case, does it have two fill plugs?
> My
> > 4-cylinder one only uses the rear fill plug, and
> the
> > oil flows forward into the front box. Is the one
> for
> > the auto tranny different?
> >
> > We have to go wheeling again sometime!
> >
> > --- Thom Singer <ntsqd@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Get paid today. Get to turn it into cash and
> spend
> > > it all in one place.
> > > Last Friday I gave a guy a deposit on a near
> virgin
> > > 85 Xtra Cab with
> > > EFI. He's selling because it doesn't run. Said
> it
> > > acted like it was
> > > running out of fuel with 1/8 tank in it, the
> check
> > > engine light came
> > > on, and then it just stopped. No sounds of the
> pump
> > > priming the system,
> > > but it does crank. I'm gambling that it set a
> code.
> > > There are two small dents in it, bed has never
> been
> > > used to haul
> > > anything more than dogs. Comes with a color
> matched
> > > shell. No rust to
> > > be seen anywhere in the bed.
> > > It's kind of a strange truck. It's a striper,
> rubber
> > > floor mats, split
> > > bench seat, low end gauge cluster, no clock,
> etc.,
> > > but it has an auto
> > > trans and the double walled bed. I'm not sure
> what
> > > I'm going to do
> > > about the auto trans. I can't decide if this is
> the
> > > daily driver or
> > > will replace Patch. Or if I'll fix it and sell
> it at
> > > market value.
> > >
> > > The Marlin doubler that was put in my friend's
> > > since-sold Supercharged
> > > 3.4 T-100 with an auto may be coming my way.
> Seems
> > > the current owner
> > > had a Jiffy Lube type place do all of the lubes
> and
> > > they didn't refill
> > > the front box. Their mechanic is telling them to
> > > just put it back to
> > > stock. Things inside the Crawler may not be all
> that
> > > great, but at
> > > least I'd get both adapter plates. If that does
> come
> > > my way, that will
> > > decide this truck's future.
> > >
> > > =====
> > > TS
> > > Ventura, CA
> > >
> > > "Teach you all I know and you're still stupid."
> > > -- Howdy Lee
> > >
> > >
> __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes
> > > http://autos.yahoo.com
> > > 4x4Wire.com Toyota Section
> > http://www.4x4Wire.com/toyota/
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes
> > http://autos.yahoo.com
> > 4x4Wire.com Toyota Section
> http://www.4x4Wire.com/toyota/
>
>
> =====
> TS
> Ventura, CA
>
> "Teach you all I know and you're still stupid."
> -- Howdy Lee
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes
> http://autos.yahoo.com
> 4x4Wire.com Toyota Section
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From: Thom Singer <ntsqd@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: west coast trips, was: TOY: Well, now I done it......
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Out in the Mojave Desert near the metropolis of Barstow.
--- Mark Wilson <akitadog@inreach.com> wrote:
> Not to sound to stupid but, where is Calico?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-toyota@4x4Wire.com [mailto:owner-toyota@4x4Wire.com]On
> Behalf Of Mike Carter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:14 AM
> To: toyota@4x4Wire.com
> Subject: Re: west coast trips, was: TOY: Well, now I done it......
>
>
> Count me in.
>
> --- Thom Singer <ntsqd@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I've got several potential trips in the works for
> > once things cool off
> > out there a little. We ought to put together a trip
> > to Calico for the
> > west coasters on the list. Any takers ?
> >
> > --- Mike Carter <thecarterman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Sweet deal Thom! I'm jealous, someday I'd like to
> > find
> > > a good deal on a fixer-upper to make into a more
> > > dedicated trail rig.
> > >
> > > On the Mariln case, does it have two fill plugs?
> > My
> > > 4-cylinder one only uses the rear fill plug, and
> > the
> > > oil flows forward into the front box. Is the one
> > for
> > > the auto tranny different?
> > >
> > > We have to go wheeling again sometime!
> > >
> > > --- Thom Singer <ntsqd@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Get paid today. Get to turn it into cash and
> > spend
> > > > it all in one place.
> > > > Last Friday I gave a guy a deposit on a near
> > virgin
> > > > 85 Xtra Cab with
> > > > EFI. He's selling because it doesn't run. Said
> > it
> > > > acted like it was
> > > > running out of fuel with 1/8 tank in it, the
> > check
> > > > engine light came
> > > > on, and then it just stopped. No sounds of the
> > pump
> > > > priming the system,
> > > > but it does crank. I'm gambling that it set a
> > code.
> > > > There are two small dents in it, bed has never
> > been
> > > > used to haul
> > > > anything more than dogs. Comes with a color
> > matched
> > > > shell. No rust to
> > > > be seen anywhere in the bed.
> > > > It's kind of a strange truck. It's a striper,
> > rubber
> > > > floor mats, split
> > > > bench seat, low end gauge cluster, no clock,
> > etc.,
> > > > but it has an auto
> > > > trans and the double walled bed. I'm not sure
> > what
> > > > I'm going to do
> > > > about the auto trans. I can't decide if this is
> > the
> > > > daily driver or
> > > > will replace Patch. Or if I'll fix it and sell
> > it at
> > > > market value.
> > > >
> > > > The Marlin doubler that was put in my friend's
> > > > since-sold Supercharged
> > > > 3.4 T-100 with an auto may be coming my way.
> > Seems
> > > > the current owner
> > > > had a Jiffy Lube type place do all of the lubes
> > and
> > > > they didn't refill
> > > > the front box. Their mechanic is telling them to
> > > > just put it back to
> > > > stock. Things inside the Crawler may not be all
> > that
> > > > great, but at
> > > > least I'd get both adapter plates. If that does
> > come
> > > > my way, that will
> > > > decide this truck's future.
> > > >
> > > > =====
> > > > TS
> > > > Ventura, CA
> > > >
> > > > "Teach you all I know and you're still stupid."
> > > > -- Howdy Lee
> > > >
> > > >
> > __________________________________________________
> > > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes
> > > > http://autos.yahoo.com
> > > > 4x4Wire.com Toyota Section
> > > http://www.4x4Wire.com/toyota/
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes
> > > http://autos.yahoo.com
> > > 4x4Wire.com Toyota Section
> > http://www.4x4Wire.com/toyota/
> >
> >
> > =====
> > TS
> > Ventura, CA
> >
> > "Teach you all I know and you're still stupid."
> > -- Howdy Lee
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes
> > http://autos.yahoo.com
> > 4x4Wire.com Toyota Section
> http://www.4x4Wire.com/toyota/
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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> Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes
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>
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=====
TS
Ventura, CA
"Teach you all I know and you're still stupid."
-- Howdy Lee
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Subject: TOY: R-12 vs. R-134a
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My local dealer quoted my just over $200 to fill the freon in my 4Runner
(R-12), and they quoted my just over $300 to convert it over to R-134a.
This doesn't seem right to me. I can go down to Autozone or Checker and
buy a conversion kit for under $40, and it includes the new fittings, the
charge oil, and freon. Has anyone ever done this conversion? I thought
that all you had to change was the fitting on the compressor, is this
assumption right? Is the dealer trying to screw me with the conversion?
Any input??
Matt Thompson
Salt Lake City, Utah
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Subject: TOY: Re: R-12 vs. R-134a
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I have an '84 pickup. I am not sure what your application is, but I just
converted mine to R-134A and it cost a total of $150, and that included
resetting the gap on my compressor clutch. I think that was $40 of the
total. It would have been $110 without that. Recharging with R-12 will be
significantly higher. Your dealer's price may be high, or labor may be high
in your area. I am in Texas and I got it done at a local auto a/c shop. I
did not check the dealer's price, but all of the a/c shops around here were
comparable to that.
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> My local dealer quoted my just over $200 to fill the freon in my 4Runner
> (R-12), and they quoted my just over $300 to convert it over to R-134a.
> This doesn't seem right to me. I can go down to Autozone or Checker and
> buy a conversion kit for under $40, and it includes the new fittings, the
> charge oil, and freon. Has anyone ever done this conversion? I thought
> that all you had to change was the fitting on the compressor, is this
> assumption right? Is the dealer trying to screw me with the conversion?
> Any input??
>
> Matt Thompson
> Salt Lake City, Utah
>
> 4x4Wire.com Toyota Section http://www.4x4Wire.com/toyota/
>
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From: "Russ Wylie" <broknyota@hotmail.com>
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Hey,
So i think i got a busted head gasket on my 22r... It is a rebuild with like
about 30-40 on it.
I've been noticing that my water has been slowly going down. The Rad is new
and is a good modine unitl. Also sometimes if it runs on the highway for a
bit, when i get off, it will have a vicious missfire. Like it will go lump
lump lump.. massive SHUDDER. I also have an oil leak somewhere around the
fuel pump on the side of the motor. Anyone encounter problems such as
these? any advice? any tricks for replacement? If i'm in there is there
anything else i should check for or replace?
I have full access to 2 full machine shops on campus and am a capable
machinist. I am thinking of putting my head up on a bridgeport and taking a
few thou off of it. Anybody have any ideas questions concerns? I was also
thinking of taking my head and opening up the ports alittle, just a cleaning
for burrs and stuff. Opening them too much would be pretty dumb as the
motor is stock.
Thanks guys
Russ
Russ Wylie
'71 Cj-5 "the brick", '86 yota 4x4 flatbed "roscoe"
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Subject: TOY: Re: head gasket?
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:56:02 -0500
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Yes....while your in there I would think about doing the timing set. If it's
EFI I would also replace the fuel filter just because it's so much easier
with the head off.
Clint Searcy
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From: "Russ Wylie" <broknyota@hotmail.com>
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Subject: TOY: head gasket?
Hey,
So i think i got a busted head gasket on my 22r... It is a rebuild with like
about 30-40 on it.
I've been noticing that my water has been slowly going down. The Rad is new
and is a good modine unitl. Also sometimes if it runs on the highway for a
bit, when i get off, it will have a vicious missfire. Like it will go lump
lump lump.. massive SHUDDER. I also have an oil leak somewhere around the
fuel pump on the side of the motor. Anyone encounter problems such as
these? any advice? any tricks for replacement? If i'm in there is there
anything else i should check for or replace?
I have full access to 2 full machine shops on campus and am a capable
machinist. I am thinking of putting my head up on a bridgeport and taking a
few thou off of it. Anybody have any ideas questions concerns? I was also
thinking of taking my head and opening up the ports alittle, just a cleaning
for burrs and stuff. Opening them too much would be pretty dumb as the
motor is stock.
Thanks guys
Russ
Russ Wylie
'71 Cj-5 "the brick", '86 yota 4x4 flatbed "roscoe"
it just proves opposites do attract
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Subject: TOY: RE: head gasket?
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Check it for flatness first. If it's anything close to .010", I'd get it
heat straightened first before you surface it. I wouldn't want to take off
that much metal.
Bob
150 DTG
-----Original Message-----
Hey,
So i think i got a busted head gasket on my 22r... It is a rebuild with like
about 30-40 on it.
I've been noticing that my water has been slowly going down. The Rad is new
and is a good modine unitl. Also sometimes if it runs on the highway for a
bit, when i get off, it will have a vicious missfire. Like it will go lump
lump lump.. massive SHUDDER. I also have an oil leak somewhere around the
fuel pump on the side of the motor. Anyone encounter problems such as
these? any advice? any tricks for replacement? If i'm in there is there
anything else i should check for or replace?
I have full access to 2 full machine shops on campus and am a capable
machinist. I am thinking of putting my head up on a bridgeport and taking a
few thou off of it. Anybody have any ideas questions concerns? I was also
thinking of taking my head and opening up the ports alittle, just a cleaning
for burrs and stuff. Opening them too much would be pretty dumb as the
motor is stock.
Thanks guys
Russ
Russ Wylie
'71 Cj-5 "the brick", '86 yota 4x4 flatbed "roscoe"
it just proves opposites do attract
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"R134a attacks the nitrile butyl rubber refrigeration hoses and 0-ring gaskets"
used in R12 systems. This is a direct quote from an official Toyota
AC technician training manual I have.
On AC discussion forums I follow, the AC mechanics report that R134a
conversions on Toyotas last 2 years or less before they start leaking
or expensive components fail. Using R134a compressor oil did
NOT prevent system failures.
They all strongly recommend sticking with R12 which is widely
available on ebay for only $20 a can (a fully discharged system needs
no more than two 14 oz cans). Example of ebay ad:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1840643317
Also, for $15 anyone can take a 25 question open book test online
at http://www.macsw.org/ to become certified to buy R12
and charge a PARTIALLY discharged R12 system yourself like this:
http://www.mindspring.com/~cherubini/ACrecharge.JPG
But beware that before charging a FULLY discharged R12 system
the receiver-drier needs to be replaced and a few ounces of Nippondenso
R12 compressor oil added and the system hooked
up to a vacuum pump for 30 minutes to remove system
moisture.
I own a 1974 Toyota Corona and a 1976 Toyota pickup
with their original R12 systems that still work great. The only
service they have needed is a topping off of 1/2 - 3/4 can of R12
refrigerant. This is a testimonial to the tremendous durability of
an R12 system.
Paul Cherubini
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Paul Cherubini wrote:
>
> I own a 1974 Toyota Corona and a 1976 Toyota pickup
> with their original R12 systems that still work great. The only
> service they have needed is a topping off of 1/2 - 3/4 can of R12
> refrigerant. This is a testimonial to the tremendous durability of
> an R12 system.
>
i heard that some dont even need charging. just run the system once a week for a
short period, each week, for the rest of the lifetime of the car and you should be
fine.
personally, on my 90, other than the SSC which i dont thing toyota did anything
since everything was fine on mine, hasnt been for a/c service. sure it's not as
cold as my WRX and its r134, but it still gets cold enough for me... :)
--
Leo G. Divinagracia III
ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
