TOY: injector cleaning

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Subject: TOY: injector cleaning
From: "Kerry White" <kerry_e_white@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:59:16 -0500
any recomendations for injector cleaning?

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Subject: TOY: 4 Runner Auto to Man trans
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I have a '93 4 Runner with V6 and the slug automatic transmission that turns
new fluid brown soon after I change it.

I want to swap out the automatic for a 5spd manual and have put together a
list of items that I will need.

I was wondering if anybody has done this and if there is anything I maybe
missing?

1. 5spd trans (this is obvious)
2. Bell housing
3. Clutch, Pressure plate & Flywheel
4. Clutch pedal assembly
5. Master & Slave cyl.
6. Computer Module

Now I was told I would also have to change the front IFS because of the
automatic locking hubs.

Does this sound right?

Mark


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> any recomendations for injector cleaning?

Here's who I used:
http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4x4/CheapTricks/EngineMods/index.shtml#Injectors

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You don't need to change the ECU, and the auto locking hubs don't mean
anything except that you probably want to change them to manual hubs just
because they are better.  You may or may not have to modify driveline
lengths, you will probably have to change flanges, the auto uses a different
flange than anything else, not 100% sure.  You will have to use a custom
crossmember beause the auto is in a different place than the manual.

-Rob

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: TOY: 4 Runner Auto to Man trans


>
> I have a '93 4 Runner with V6 and the slug automatic transmission that
turns
> new fluid brown soon after I change it.
>
> I want to swap out the automatic for a 5spd manual and have put together a
> list of items that I will need.
>
> I was wondering if anybody has done this and if there is anything I maybe
> missing?
>
> 1. 5spd trans (this is obvious)
> 2. Bell housing
> 3. Clutch, Pressure plate & Flywheel
> 4. Clutch pedal assembly
> 5. Master & Slave cyl.
> 6. Computer Module
>
> Now I was told I would also have to change the front IFS because of the
> automatic locking hubs.
>
> Does this sound right?
>
> Mark
>
> 4x4Wire.com Toyota Section http://www.4x4Wire.com/toyota/
>


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From: "Erik Bibelheimer" <thebeebs@jps.net>
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Subject: TOY: Re: 4 Runner Auto to Man trans
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The hubs have nothing to do w/ the tranny- completely separate issue.

In case you didn't already know, you'll also need the transfer case that
comes w/ the manual tranny.

- Erik Bibelheimer, Auburn, CA
'86 44Runner, '97 T100
http://home.off-road.com/~bibelheimer

----------
> From: Mark Wilson <akitadog@inreach.com>
> To: toyota@4x4Wire.com
> Subject: TOY: 4 Runner Auto to Man trans
> Date: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:12 AM
> 
> 
> I have a '93 4 Runner with V6 and the slug automatic transmission that
turns
> new fluid brown soon after I change it.
> 
> I want to swap out the automatic for a 5spd manual and have put together
a
> list of items that I will need.
> 
> I was wondering if anybody has done this and if there is anything I maybe
> missing?
> 
> 1. 5spd trans (this is obvious)
> 2. Bell housing
> 3. Clutch, Pressure plate & Flywheel
> 4. Clutch pedal assembly
> 5. Master & Slave cyl.
> 6. Computer Module
> 
> Now I was told I would also have to change the front IFS because of the
> automatic locking hubs.
> 
> Does this sound right?
> 
> Mark
> 
> 4x4Wire.com Toyota Section http://www.4x4Wire.com/toyota/

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Correct, the FSM does not have the narrative of the
other manuals, however it *is* much more detailed,
complete, and is specific to your vehicle. I have all
three, and the Chiltons and Haynes appear to be
compiled largely from excerpts from the FSM. For
example, compare the diagrams.

The only value I find in the Chiltons (Haynes is not
wothe very much IMHO) is that it will describes tricks
to doing things without using special service tools.
The FSM simply says use SST #14567-2345 which is very
annoying... who actually buys those things from the
dealer??? So I think that it is worthwhile to have
both. 

Have fun!



--- Paul Cherubini <monarch@saber.net> wrote:
> Kerry White wrote:
> > 
> > I ask because I ordered a factory service manual,
> and now that I have it I
> > find it to be less complete than I had hoped,
> numerous typos, lack of
> > detail, etc. , not much better than my Haynes or
> Chiltons.
> > It is white with a red stripe at the top and a
> black stripe at the bottom
> > and says
> > did I get jipped and just get a generic shop
> manual, or is this the "factory
> > service manual" with a new cover? I hate to think
> this is the most
> > comprehensive material there is..
> 
> It's the right manual and no it's not for beginners.
> A beginner
> needs to read the procedures in all available
> manuals 
> (Hayes, Chiltons, Factory manual & others) and then 
> attempt the job.
> 
> Personally, I like to practice procedures on junked
> cars in
> the self service wrecking yards in order to know
> what I'll be
> up against when I attempt the real thing.
> 
> I think the best beginners book, by far, is "How to
> Keep
> Your Toyota Pickup Alive, by Larry Owens. 
> Occassionally
> available on ebay.
> 
> Paul Cherubini
> 4x4Wire.com Toyota Section
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Subject: TOY: FSM / Injector cleaning
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The FSM I have for an 1989 looks EXACTLY like the link
you sent...

The color is slightly differnt... but the overall look
is the same.

The FSM is VERY detailed - too much so. Many times you
DONT need to take apart half the stuff it says you
have too. 
It also shows an inordiante number of very cool (but
not always necessary) Special Service Tools (SST) in
use.

Sounds like you got some kind of "generic" FSM.

Also - there is a repair book out by the BENTLY
publisher that sbasically yhe highlites of truck and
4runner FSMs. That one is sometimtes easier to get. It
has many "offical" (still tagged with cryptic toyota
numberiings) FSM drawings.

As far as the injectors... send em off to RC Engineering...

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What do the charge? ballpark figure with shipping.
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Date: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:27 AM
Subject: TOY: FSM / Injector cleaning


>The FSM I have for an 1989 looks EXACTLY like the link
>you sent...
>
>The color is slightly differnt... but the overall look
>is the same.
>
>The FSM is VERY detailed - too much so. Many times you
>DONT need to take apart half the stuff it says you
>have too. 
>It also shows an inordiante number of very cool (but
>not always necessary) Special Service Tools (SST) in
>use.
>
>Sounds like you got some kind of "generic" FSM.
>
>Also - there is a repair book out by the BENTLY
>publisher that sbasically yhe highlites of truck and
>4runner FSMs. That one is sometimtes easier to get. It
>has many "offical" (still tagged with cryptic toyota
>numberiings) FSM drawings.
>
>As far as the injectors... send em off to RC Engineering...
>
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Subject: Re: TOY: 4 Runner Auto to Man trans
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I used to be on a list for the Talon/Eclipse, and there was always a lot
of talk of making non-turbo cars in to turbo cars.   The end conclusion
was that it was *always* easier to sell the non-turbo and buy a turbo car.
  This sounds like a similar project.  Unless you have a particular
attachment to your 93, or significant upgrades in it already, you might
consider that as an option.   Then again, who am I to talk, as the guy who
has done some of the more hairbrained upgrades which have actually
devalued my cars.  ;-)

On another note, I also owned a 93 V6 4runner.   I had the 5spd, and even
that I found to be very sluggish.   I'm sure there were upgrades I could
have done, but I sold it and went back to my 88 4cyl, which was faster.  
It might be that even after putting in the 5spd, you may still find it
sluggish.   Perhaps others on the list have other suggestions for sluggish
V6's.

-rr

--- Mark Wilson <akitadog@inreach.com> wrote:
> 
> I have a '93 4 Runner with V6 and the slug automatic transmission that
> turns
> new fluid brown soon after I change it.
> 
> I want to swap out the automatic for a 5spd manual and have put together
> a
> list of items that I will need.
> 
> I was wondering if anybody has done this and if there is anything I
> maybe
> missing?
> 
> 1. 5spd trans (this is obvious)
> 2. Bell housing
> 3. Clutch, Pressure plate & Flywheel
> 4. Clutch pedal assembly
> 5. Master & Slave cyl.
> 6. Computer Module
> 
> Now I was told I would also have to change the front IFS because of the
> automatic locking hubs.
> 
> Does this sound right?
> 
> Mark
> 
> 4x4Wire.com Toyota Section http://www.4x4Wire.com/toyota/
> 


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Mark,
I have an R150 5-speed tranny that I removed from my '92 4Runner.
It needs to be rebuilt, but the transfer case is still in great condition.
The only problem with the transmission, is 2nd gear synchros are worn.
It could be rebuilt. I also have the bell housing for it. It was removed from a
V-6.
As far as the front IFS auto hubs will work fine.
I am not sure if you will have to cut a hole in the floorboard, for the shifter.

Where are you located?
I am in North Texas (Dallas Area). Just make an offer on the parts.
Happy wrenching!
Bryan Knowles

Mark Wilson wrote:

> I have a '93 4 Runner with V6 and the slug automatic transmission that turns
> new fluid brown soon after I change it.
>
> I want to swap out the automatic for a 5spd manual and have put together a
> list of items that I will need.
>
> I was wondering if anybody has done this and if there is anything I maybe
> missing?
>
> 1. 5spd trans (this is obvious)
> 2. Bell housing
> 3. Clutch, Pressure plate & Flywheel
> 4. Clutch pedal assembly
> 5. Master & Slave cyl.
> 6. Computer Module
>
> Now I was told I would also have to change the front IFS because of the
> automatic locking hubs.
>
> Does this sound right?
>
> Mark
>
> 4x4Wire.com Toyota Section http://www.4x4Wire.com/toyota/

--
Bryan P. Knowles
TLCA#11201
'92 4Runner
insp79@excite.com




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From: "Kerry White" <kerry_e_white@hotmail.com>
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Subject: TOY: Re: FSM / Injector cleaning
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I've found this company which is less than half the price and seems to be 
just as good:
http://www.cruzinperformance.com/fuelinj.html
Any thoughts?

-Kerry


Ed Wong wrote:
>
>As far as the injectors... send em off to RC Engineering...
>


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