RE: TOY: test

["Rick Poppe" <rickpoppe065@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

i change mine every 2-3000 no matter what. i have worked on many 1-3 year 
old veh. w/ less than 30000 miles that never had the oil changed and the 
sludge build up is unbeleivable, all the way up to the top of the inside of 
the valve cover, like 2" thick. this on camrys and avalons, mostly lease 
vehicles. they figure they wont do any maint. cuz they wont own it in 3 
years. i have a couple pictures of these engines in my computer, i just 
don't know how to post them here or i would just to make a point


>From: "Payne, Mike K." <MPayne1@allstate.com>
>Reply-To: toyota@4x4wire.com
>To: "'toyota@4x4wire.com'" <toyota@4x4wire.com>
>Subject: RE: TOY: test
>Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 09:11:53 -0600
>
>I change my oil approx every 3000 miles... and I use synthetic.  I figure
>the extra 2000 miles I am supposed to get is good insurance, because most 
>of
>the time I don't get it done right on time.
>
>http://www.uglyknob.com/Misc/synth_oil.txt
>
>I submit this article for good explanations on synthetic vs dinocrap... it
>does explain what processes oil goes through on startup and whatnot so I
>figured it was relevant. (I think I have posted this previously)
>
>According to that article and everything I have ever heard about oil, there
>is no oil that will last any significant amount of time without good
>filtration.  If you aren't changing your oil OR your filter than it isn't
>even a matter of theory.  You can't argue that an engine doesn't wear... it
>might wear to varying degrees, but you will inevitably get small metal
>deposits in your oil from that wear.  By not changing your oil (and more
>importantly your filter in this argument) you are increasing the
>abrasiveness of the oil in your engine... which increases wear... which
>increases deposits... etc...
>
>Dino oil simply won't be effective for much longer than 3K miles (if even
>that long in harsh conditions).
>
>So my stance agrees with the article... synthetic could last for 25K miles
>with excellent filtration and dino-oil is crap.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: M.CLINT SEARCY [mailto:rainwolf@prodigy.net]
>
>
>Well....since everything is so quiet I guess I'll ask you all a question we
>were kicking around at work today.
>  The question is, How often do you change your oil and why? All the guys I
>work with drive trucks. We have every thing from 4x4 Dodge Cummings diesels
>to an 81 Isuzu pup. I'm the only Toy driver.
>    These guys all thought I was nuts for changing my oil and filter every
>3000 miles. In fact both of the Chevy guys drive 1994 trucks with vortex
>motors and swear they have never once changed their oil or filter.
>
>  So....when do you change your oil? Does it matter?
>
>Ever Learning
>Clint Searcy
>4x4Wire.com Toyota Section http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/


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