RE: TOY: D44 Swap // AOR Springs

["Payne, Mike" <MPayne1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

What are you trying to say about backwater folks?  You got a problem with
backwater folks?!?!  Let me tell you something buddy!!

Just Kidding... :)

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Aaron Twite [mailto:toypirate29@hotmail.com] 
Sent:	Tuesday, July 31, 2001 8:05 PM
To:	toyota@4x4wire.com
Subject:	Re: TOY: D44 Swap // AOR Springs

I think a couple people may have got me wrong.  I said I heard AOR srpings 
aren't worth it.  I didn't say I thought so.  I don't know, so I threw the 
question out there.  The responses I've read are what I thought too, I just 
needed some more opinions besides the back water folks around where I live.
Aaron, Ga


>From: "Evan Mills" <mudyota@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: toyota@4x4wire.com
>To: toyota@4x4wire.com
>Subject: TOY: D44 Swap // AOR Springs
>Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:54:44 -0500
>
>>Matt.Thompson@dana.com wrote:
>>
>>hey also have what is called a military wrap
>>on their springs, it's a half-leaf that sits
>>on the top of the spring pack in order to
>>control axle wrap. By sitting on the top of
>>the spring pack, it has very little if any
>>affect on travel or ride quality.
>
>A "military wrap" (AKA snail wrap) is NOT what you described. A military
>wrap is where the first (main) leaf makes the traditional curl at the end
>for the bushing to go through, and the second leaf (the one BELOW the main
>leaf) wraps around the eye made by the main leaf. This way if you break the
>main leaf it still has something holding it to the spring mount.
>
>I've heard various terms for what you described, but 'torque leaf' seems to
>be the most common. A military wrap does not fight axle wrap, it's simply
>there to control movement in case of breakage. AOR& Alcan springs both 
>fight
>axle wrap with a torque leaf, and I believe AllPro uses them too.
>
>I do agree with Matt about AOR / All Pro springs. I've seen several rigs
>with AllPro springs that flexed like mad myself, and I've heard of several
>trucks with AORs that love 'em. FWIW, I plan on using all pro springs when 
>I
>throw my 82 model axle under the Runner.
>
>Check out this flex: (AllPro springs front & back, axle swap)
>http://allprooffroad.com/pics/solidpics/2906.jpg
>
>If you're looking for D44 axle specs, go over to pirate4x4.com and use the
>search on their Bulletin Board in the Toyota section. A lot of people 
>who've
>done the swap have answered tons of questions from guys like you who're
>thinking about doing it.
>
>Evan Mills
>89 4Runner 22RE /5 Spd.
>33" Goodyear MT/Rs, 4" Lift
>Custom Snorkel, 9K Winch
>
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