Re: JPOR: Front axle Q's

[M&L Garner <mlgarner@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Paul.  I'll  prolly just go with the CJ brakes and rotors with
the Warn internal hub deals.  I'm guessing brakes will only get so big
with a 15" wheel. If the CJ/Ford/Ch#$y stuff is all pretty much the same
size, I'll stick with easy.  All of this was for the front.  The rear is
set up with Disks with ebrakes.  I'm told they are Exploder, but don't
know till I get my hands on them.  Might be bigger than that.  Guess
I'll be playing with mastercylinder/proportioning valve apps.

mikE(thanks again)

"Paul W." wrote:
>
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> No, the Ford stub axles won't be 27 spline, but the CJ/Scout ones are.  Ford (&
> GM) are less... I forget the # off-hand - 16?  There is little -if any-
> difference between the F-150 rotor and the early CJ "thick" rotor, and they can
> be interchanged.  Same with the calipers.  Scout calipers are also similar, but
> use a larger banjo fitting.  They will interchange as long as you swap brake
> lines, too.  The GM backing plate/caliper bracket will work on the early CJ
> disc brake or drum brake knuckles, but I don't think they'll fit the later disc
> brake knuckles (OEM caliper braket gets in the way, if I remember right).  You
> can use the GM-Delco calipers with thick (early) CJ/F-150/Scout rotors and they
> do work better than the Bendix calipers used with the above mentioned rotors.
> You can use just about any D44 knuckle-out with a CJ (or Scout) D30, you just
> need to be sure your stub shaft matches the application... and if you use Scout
> knuckles, you need a longer pitman arm (which usually means a relocated
> steering box) or you'll lose turning radius because the have LONG steering
> arms.
>
> If all this is about rear calipers, it is generally considered these calipers
> are too strong for the rear - unless you're running 40" tires or bigger.
> Running these with smaller tires and an adjustable proportioning valve is
> do-able, but the adjustment becomes hairline in getting the right balance.
> Rear calipers of choice are usually the "metric" Delco (S-10 front's) if you
> don't need an e-brake feature, or 79-8? El Dorado/Riviera/Toronado rear
> calipers (same braketry is used with these and the "metric") or some off a
> Lincoln (don't know the year, but they'd be ones with an e-brake feature -
> later FoMoCo's used a little drum inside the rotor - like Exploders).
>
> Paul
>
> --- M&L Garner <mlgarner@netins.net> wrote:
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> > Ford is 27 spline??  Bummer about the brake size though.  Guess I'll
> > have to live with it.  Figgure the rear disks will be a big improvement,
> > but I want the best I can get.
> >
> > mikE(speaking of big brakes, I'm out the door to drive the Freightliner)
> >
> > "Paul W." wrote:
> > >
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> > > Yes, they should be 27 spline outers.  Ford F-150 brakes aren't really any
> > > different than the 77-78 CJ's but would probably be better than the later
> > > CJ's.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > --- M&L Garner <mlgarner@netins.net> wrote:
> > > > I know I should know all this, but I've either forgotten, or wasn't
> > > > paying attention in the first place.  I currently have a Scout 44, with
> > > > stock CJ hubs, and brakes.  (knuckles out)  I would like bigger brakes,
> > > > but must stick to the 5 on 5.5 bolt pattern.   The reason, I've picked
> > > > up a set of nearly new Currie 9"ers.  Front doesn't have any knuckles,
> > > > brakes, etc, but does have the outer stub shafts.  CJ parts are spozed
> > > > to work on it.  (hey Bart! are they 27 spline outers?)  So, my question
> > > > is.   Will Ford knuckeles, and brakes work with CJ sytle hubs?  Are Ford
> > > > F150 brakes bigger than CJ?  Basically, what is the biggest brake I can
> > > > put on my CJ style hubs?
> > > >
> > > > mikE(still can't believe I did that)
>
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