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Getting back to the point of the thread, if Toyota were to include twin lockers lower T-case gearing etc, I think it might give the Rubicon a run for it's money and I still stand by my assertion that the Toyota is likely to be more reliable overall.

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IF Toyota does produce such a vehicle I am sure that it will give the Rubicon a run for its money. As Bill and Brian Gallus have both said already though, you will be disappointed. (Feel free to gloat if Toyota proves me wrong...)

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Ya, I probably will be. My expectations are low already. Toyota doesn't offer anything all that capable and certainly not affordable. $60,000 Land Cruiser!? So, just about anything is a step up. I'm not expecting something like new version of the Land Cruiser 78 series or anything. I fully expect IFS front and coil SA rear, just like the concept. I would be interested if they include 33" tires, hopefully not with 20" wheels. They never did mention anything about lockers or lower geared T-case in the concept, so that's pure speculation based on nothing. I would be happy with something based on the 4Runner with factory 33" tires and lockers. But like everyone says, good luck.

We'll see in just a few hours.

BTW, the Jeep Gladiator is an interesting concept. So is the Rescue. I'd really love to see Toyota build something like that, but that ain't gonna happen. Kudos to Jeep for at least experimenting with the idea.

http://www.jeep.com/autoshow/gladiator/gallery.html

Edited by Brian894X4 (02/08/05 09:46 PM)

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