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This rig, a completely stock 4Runner, no lift, and no lockers. It did have factory 4.88 gears and 32" tires.

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I didn't realize that 32" tall tires were a stock option.

You know I saw a stock 4Runner at Lowes the other day and I could not believe how low the stock gas tank and skidplate hang down. Not sure if they are as low as the TJs but there is a reason why Budbuilt, FROR, etc. all sell high clearance crossmembers.

Brian the next time I have the chance to drive a factory Rubicon I will try to invite you along. You can bring whatever factory Toyota you want (FJ-40, FJ-80, pickup, whatever) and we can play follow the leader...

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I know that was a fluke. Remember the part where I said, this doesn't prove anything?

I know the Rubicon is a kick ars ride. Don't take my critisim of the Rubicon and Powerwagon so seriously. Besides, I was talking about mechnicals and reliability, not how many rocks it climb over or how deep a mud bog it can go through.

Obviously a stock Rubicon is better than nearly any other bone stock 4x4 in America. I think a fully locked Land Cruiser 80 series might beat it, though. And that's just because the 80 series has a longer wheelbase, is wider and comes with taller tires. Although if we're comparing bone stock, to bone stock, the Rubicon has the factory MTRs which count for a lot by themselves. Add a $1500 suspension lift, some taller tires and you'd have a basicly unstoppable off road machine....as long it was still running.





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Edited by Brian894X4 (02/08/05 06:19 AM)

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