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Re: RESPONSE from seller
      01/11/05 03:11 PM

Ok, first a few words about copyright, right to publicity and privacy rights. . .
There are two jurisdictions at play here: state law, and federal law. And there is statutory law and common law. State and fed laws are similar but not exactly the same. A copyright suit or a fraud action would probably be under fed jurisdiction and the Ebay agreement breach of contract would probably be a Calif. state law action (that depends on a lot of things).
1. Copyright attaches as soon as a "work" is put into tangable form. "Tangable" includes computer graphics. Federal copyright protection also attaches at the same time. It is not necessary to register the work or mark it with that little 'c'. However, although you can sue for copyright infringement without registering the work, you are limited to recovery of "actual" damages (ex: loss of business). If you register before the infringement then you are not limited to actual damages.
Most states have similar laws. California has what's called "right to publicity" which protects celebraties from the unauthorized use of their likeness, etc.
There are also various laws covering the right to privacy.

Although what this duffus is doing is wrong, suing him for copyright infringement or "right of publicity" probably wouldn't do you any good. Under the copyright laws, I think any of us would have a hard time showing any actual damages and I doubt that anyone registered their photos. It is also questionable whether the photos would qualify as a "work" under the federal statutes. Under California's "right to publicity" the photos aren't likenesses, etc., of any of us and I doubt that anyone of us qualifies as a celebrity. A whole bunch of stuff comes into play too: are the photos "work", was their use incidental, are the photos in the public domain, etc., etc., etc.
As for privacy, I think you gave that up when you posted the photos on the WWW.

That leaves the EBay agreement and basic fraud. I think this guy is violating the agreement, but Ebay doesn't have a very efficient way to deal with that. Fraud is probably the best bet. He seems to be implying that the cars in the photos use his product, so he can induce people to buy his product. If so, this is fraud.

Report him to the FBI Internet Fraud division (internet fraud is a federal crime, thus it's the FBI's deal). It would be a stronger case if someone who bought one of these things contacted the FBI.

If you start an email campaign or Ebay comment campaign against this guy be careful. You could find yourself on the wrong end of a lawsuit.

Oh ya, there is also the web site that originally posted the photos. They may have some rights here too, depending on their notices, etc., but they don't seem interested.

CYA part: These are my opinions only and not meant as legal advise.

Jim

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* Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. Bansil 01/05/05 07:25 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. OffRodEO   01/14/05 11:12 AM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. randii   01/14/05 12:18 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. RobG   01/14/05 11:27 AM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. OffRodEO   01/14/05 11:35 AM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. ckimbrough18   01/14/05 05:18 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. OffRodEO   01/14/05 06:25 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. Anonymous   01/14/05 07:59 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. Landmonster   01/14/05 08:30 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. Anonymous   01/15/05 02:34 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. Anonymous   01/16/05 10:57 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. litnin   01/16/05 11:33 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. Sc0rp10n   01/14/05 11:31 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. RobG   01/14/05 12:18 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. Triathlete   01/07/05 01:30 AM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. jezericModerator   01/06/05 07:32 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. Bansil   01/06/05 05:26 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. Sc0rp10n   01/06/05 05:29 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. JasonB   01/06/05 03:15 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. Mr. Mojo   01/06/05 02:56 PM
. * * RESPONSE from seller sweater   01/06/05 01:53 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Smiley   01/06/05 05:51 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller sweater   01/06/05 07:39 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller TrooperJ   01/06/05 08:05 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller CPOM   01/06/05 08:48 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Anonymous   01/06/05 09:00 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller HCMP   01/07/05 01:48 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller pucci   01/07/05 09:54 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Bucket   01/07/05 11:15 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Frisky   01/08/05 01:50 AM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Bansil   01/12/05 05:34 AM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller RobG   01/12/05 09:39 AM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller randii   01/12/05 12:05 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Wayne   01/12/05 01:14 PM
. * * the latest response RobG   01/13/05 09:21 AM
. * * Re: the latest response Smiley   01/13/05 01:25 PM
. * * Re: the latest response Sc0rp10n   01/13/05 04:16 PM
. * * Re: the latest response Anonymous   01/13/05 06:18 PM
. * * Re: the latest response litnin   01/13/05 10:32 PM
. * * The (former) eBay Seller has Surrendered! Smiley   01/14/05 02:00 AM
. * * Re: The (former) eBay Seller has Surrendered! Smiley   01/14/05 03:06 AM
. * * Re: The (former) eBay Seller has Surrendered! strawmyersModerator   01/14/05 02:12 AM
. * * Re: The (former) eBay Seller has Surrendered! randii   01/14/05 03:38 AM
. * * Re: The (former) eBay Seller has Surrendered! ProBMXer1313   01/14/05 04:34 AM
. * * Re: The (former) eBay Seller has Surrendered! Smiley   01/14/05 05:31 AM
. * * Re: The (former) eBay Seller has Surrendered! litnin   01/14/05 01:18 PM
. * * Re: The (former) eBay Seller has Surrendered! Smiley   01/14/05 02:16 PM
. * * Re: The (former) eBay Seller has Surrendered! OffRodEO   01/14/05 03:14 PM
. * * Re: The (former) eBay Seller has Surrendered! Sc0rp10n   01/14/05 07:20 AM
. * * Re: The (former) eBay Seller has Surrendered! OffRodEO   01/14/05 10:24 AM
. * * Re: The (former) eBay Seller has Surrendered! RobG   01/14/05 10:47 AM
. * * Re: The (former) eBay Seller has Surrendered! Smiley   01/14/05 11:30 AM
. * * Re: The (former) eBay Seller has Surrendered! Canucklehead   01/14/05 03:16 PM
. * * Re: The (former) eBay Seller has Surrendered! OffRodEO   01/14/05 03:18 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller WillV   01/12/05 09:44 AM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller RobG   01/12/05 09:46 AM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Anonymous   01/12/05 10:29 AM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Amigo-2k   01/08/05 10:27 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Rodeo Clown   01/08/05 10:37 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Anonymous   01/08/05 11:10 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Canucklehead   01/09/05 09:24 AM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Landmonster   01/09/05 10:16 AM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Wayne   01/09/05 10:36 AM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller litnin   01/09/05 10:50 AM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Smiley   01/09/05 01:54 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Jessica   01/11/05 04:04 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Smiley   01/11/05 04:45 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Landmonster   01/09/05 02:34 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller CPOM   01/09/05 05:23 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Anonymous   01/11/05 03:11 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Smiley   01/11/05 03:36 PM
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. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller HCMP   01/11/05 03:55 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Wayne   01/11/05 04:16 PM
. * * Re: eBay scum Anonymous   01/11/05 02:40 PM
. * * Re: eBay scum Smiley   01/11/05 03:15 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller TrooperJ   01/08/05 11:18 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller RobG   01/11/05 04:41 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Smiley   01/11/05 04:54 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Smiley   01/08/05 04:08 AM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller paulevans76   01/07/05 05:15 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller paulevans76   01/06/05 08:40 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller randii   01/06/05 08:05 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Canucklehead   01/06/05 07:14 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Pyro4117   01/07/05 05:54 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller litnin   01/07/05 09:29 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller DoctorC   01/07/05 07:56 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller CPOM   01/07/05 07:24 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Anonymous   01/06/05 07:21 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller strawmyersModerator   01/06/05 04:34 PM
. * * Re: RESPONSE from seller Sc0rp10n   01/06/05 05:07 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. Anonymous   01/06/05 03:45 AM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. Bigpoppax2   01/06/05 09:16 AM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. Smiley   01/06/05 10:56 AM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. WillV   01/06/05 11:10 AM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. central   01/06/05 11:59 AM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. litnin   01/06/05 02:43 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. central   01/06/05 04:16 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. litnin   01/06/05 09:31 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. central   01/07/05 12:05 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. Chris Perosi   01/07/05 01:57 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. Jim_PagetModerator   01/07/05 12:01 AM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. Wayne   01/07/05 12:14 AM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. Wayne   01/05/05 07:44 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. TrooperJ   01/05/05 07:46 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. sweater   01/05/05 07:43 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. pucci   01/05/05 07:31 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. Smiley   01/05/05 07:54 PM
. * * Re: Ebay Scammer using some of our pictures. ProBMXer1313   01/05/05 08:02 PM
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