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FrankR
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Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!!
      03/08/04 11:16 PM

They were originally differentiated from regular car starting batteries because of all of the on-board marine electronics that can drain a battery below the 10% depth-of-discharge level and because boats are left unattended for long periods of time without charging, resulting in deep discharge that would damage a car starting battery very quickly. Auto starting batteries can certainly start boat engines - they just won't last in a marine environment where normal discharge rates exceed 10% on a regular basis.

The beefier construction was probably due more to the sturdier plates and maybe somewhat a better case, but they were the forerunners of RV and off-road battery design. The reputation of sturdiness was probably a generic "sturdy" that was used by marketers to cover a multitude of characteristics that they couldn't explain to consumers - who probably weren't interested in how it worked - just that it did..... kinda like off-roaders, eh? It's what to have?!

Marine batteries are "semi-deep cycle" as are many others, including Optima - the difference being a matter of degree for most that claim to be "deep cycle", and many of the marine labeled batteries aren't much better than a car starting battery.

There are only a few manufacturers of true deep cycle batteries and you probably couldn't fit some of the true deep cycles in your truck that had enough CCA to start your engine. You'd also probably have to crank your torsion bars just to balance the load of the battery.

See my next post for a very interesting comparative and a question about what battery groups will fit in a Gen1.

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* Charging: Battery info (ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!!) Lloyd Swartz 03/06/04 12:07 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! off-roaderModerator   03/08/04 12:42 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/08/04 01:06 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/08/04 01:25 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! mag00   03/08/04 01:39 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/08/04 02:34 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! mag00   03/08/04 06:06 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/08/04 08:19 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/08/04 09:02 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/08/04 09:49 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! bretwalda   03/08/04 10:13 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/08/04 11:16 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/08/04 11:58 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! mag00   03/09/04 02:31 AM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! off-roaderModerator   03/09/04 09:44 AM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! mag00   03/09/04 03:00 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! off-roaderModerator   03/09/04 03:17 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! mag00   03/09/04 04:12 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/10/04 09:09 AM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! mag00   03/09/04 02:04 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/09/04 02:42 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! mag00   03/09/04 03:48 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/09/04 10:40 AM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! justice   03/09/04 11:41 AM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/09/04 02:25 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/09/04 08:07 AM
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. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/08/04 01:32 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/08/04 02:28 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/08/04 12:24 PM
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. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! ForcedAir_Montero   03/07/04 02:19 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/07/04 02:54 PM
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. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/10/04 09:16 AM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! Anonymous   03/11/04 03:59 AM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/11/04 07:08 AM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/07/04 01:47 AM
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. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! DougB   03/07/04 10:34 AM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/07/04 10:01 AM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! Lloyd Swartz   03/07/04 10:23 AM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! Anonymous   03/07/04 10:47 AM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/07/04 11:25 AM
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. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/07/04 12:18 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! Kevin C   03/07/04 01:04 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! Anonymous   03/11/04 10:47 AM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/11/04 12:44 PM
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. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/11/04 01:15 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/13/04 08:26 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! justice   03/13/04 08:41 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/13/04 08:55 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! justice   03/13/04 11:09 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/13/04 11:49 PM
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. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/14/04 10:04 AM
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. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/14/04 09:26 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/07/04 01:47 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! Lloyd Swartz   03/07/04 02:13 PM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! Anonymous   03/07/04 05:09 PM
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. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/07/04 06:51 PM
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. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/08/04 09:29 AM
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. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/08/04 10:41 AM
. * * Re: ANOTHER OPTIMA BITES THE DUST!!!!! FrankR   03/08/04 11:05 AM
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