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FrankR
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Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep
      08/09/11 08:24 AM

I learned to shoot with open sights too, Marge - and I prefer them for hunting at point blank range. I started shooting with aperture sights when I was on the Clemson rifle team. I liked those for target shooting, but a scope is now better for my old eyes.

The question I have now is whether this rifle will be able to repeat (or improve) the last group pictured. Bruce may have been on the right track when he suggested re-setting the bullet further forward in the case. The longer Hornady SST bullets are making me think there may be a problem in the barrel throat - either erosion or extended freebore (or both). It's taking a lot of rounds after a barrel cleaning before it settles into a groove - maybe from throat erosion and needing some copper deposits before the throat smooths out. The longer SST bullet is closer to the rifling and probably doesn't get misaligned as much when it jumps to the rifling. If that's an issue, the result would be what Curtis suggested - the bullet exits the barrel off-axis and takes too long to stabilize. I wish I had a borescope.

I'm glad to see the improvement, but I'd like to see it shoot an old-fashioned lead bullet better. The SST round is ok at close range when velocity is high, but I've read that it makes a very small exit wound and tends to lose expansion as velocity decreases downrange.

I might try fire-lapping with a few abrasive rounds to see if it helps, but if it won't settle into a groove when clean, I might go ahead and rebore it to .35 Whelen. Then, I'd have an excuse to visit you and go bear hunting.

Frank

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* Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR 12/23/10 11:28 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep Oyaji_Jon   12/24/10 12:38 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep cmonty72   12/23/10 02:14 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep LandRaiderModerator   12/23/10 10:52 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   12/24/10 08:03 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   12/24/10 09:47 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep DamKia   12/27/10 02:28 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep LandRaiderModerator   12/24/10 04:36 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   12/24/10 05:30 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep KF6ZPLAdministrator   12/24/10 05:47 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep Jim_Paget   12/27/10 01:09 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   12/27/10 09:41 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep LRJ4x4   12/27/10 11:20 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep cmonty72   12/28/10 11:12 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep LRJ4x4   12/28/10 11:27 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep fasteddy   12/28/10 02:57 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   12/28/10 10:38 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep Jim_Paget   12/29/10 08:30 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   12/29/10 02:51 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep Jim_Paget   12/29/10 09:41 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   12/30/10 06:39 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   12/30/10 04:22 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep Jim_Paget   12/30/10 05:15 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep Jim_Paget   12/30/10 08:10 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   01/02/11 05:45 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   12/30/10 06:06 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep Jim_Paget   01/03/11 05:07 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   01/03/11 10:30 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep Jim_Paget   01/03/11 11:20 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep kewlynxModerator   01/04/11 12:46 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep hazy_daze   01/04/11 07:59 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep Jim_Paget   01/04/11 08:51 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   01/05/11 06:54 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   01/05/11 11:17 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep Jim_Paget   01/05/11 01:52 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep Jim_Paget   01/06/11 04:11 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   01/06/11 05:08 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep Jim_Paget   01/06/11 06:04 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   01/06/11 07:50 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   01/20/11 06:41 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   02/13/11 05:41 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep hazy_daze   02/13/11 06:00 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   02/13/11 06:23 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep LandRaiderModerator   02/13/11 08:10 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   02/13/11 08:34 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep cmonty72   02/15/11 01:24 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   02/20/11 06:03 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   02/28/11 05:51 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   03/12/11 05:49 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   03/25/11 07:56 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep stony-man   03/26/11 02:36 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   03/26/11 07:47 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   04/17/11 09:04 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep stony-man   04/18/11 12:10 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   06/03/11 07:36 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep fasteddy   06/03/11 08:27 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   06/03/11 08:40 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   06/05/11 09:18 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep LandRaiderModerator   06/05/11 02:33 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   06/05/11 02:53 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep fasteddy   06/05/11 03:48 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   06/05/11 07:01 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   06/23/11 04:21 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   06/25/11 07:45 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep jeepdriver   06/27/11 10:05 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   06/27/11 11:37 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep LandRaiderModerator   06/27/11 11:51 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   06/28/11 12:58 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep LandRaiderModerator   06/28/11 02:55 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep fasteddy   06/28/11 09:54 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep hazy_daze   06/29/11 01:56 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep fasteddy   06/29/11 04:23 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep jeepdriver   06/29/11 07:55 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   06/29/11 10:27 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   06/29/11 11:19 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep jeepdriver   07/01/11 10:26 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   07/02/11 03:58 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   07/16/11 09:41 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   08/04/11 08:44 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep Grasscat   08/05/11 12:34 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   08/05/11 03:24 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep fasteddy   08/05/11 10:18 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   08/06/11 07:12 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep fasteddy   08/07/11 11:47 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   08/07/11 08:54 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep kewlynxModerator   08/09/11 01:08 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   08/09/11 08:24 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep fasteddy   08/08/11 09:06 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   11/19/11 09:01 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep fasteddy   11/19/11 07:31 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   11/19/11 08:28 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep 87Montero   11/20/11 09:05 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep LandRaiderModerator   11/20/11 08:10 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   11/20/11 10:07 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep fasteddy   11/21/11 06:18 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   11/21/11 07:32 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   12/11/11 02:36 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   12/14/11 09:07 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep justice   12/15/11 11:18 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   12/16/11 06:13 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep LandRaiderModerator   12/16/11 02:12 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep kewlynxModerator   12/18/11 09:14 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep FrankR   12/16/11 06:41 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep JohnnyBfromPeoria   12/16/11 01:40 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep hazy_daze   08/08/11 11:55 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep fasteddy   06/29/11 09:34 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep JohnnyBfromPeoria   06/29/11 02:35 AM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep LandRaiderModerator   01/04/11 07:57 PM
. * * Re: Hunting Rifle Mission Creep stony-man   12/24/10 12:34 AM

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