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Reged: 02/04/09
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Re: My "New" Truck
      03/07/09 10:17 PM

Sweet truck.
My roomy has long box that's the same colour. He's lowered it 6", and put on a toyota bumper.
Anyway... I was looking at turboing N/A DOHC Galant two years ago so I've done a bit of research. I never did it, and haven't seen any of these setups in person (please read "Maurie is talking out his ass") but here is what I know in a nut shell.
The fact you have a narrow block should make this swap business easier (but I'll explain more in a sec). You are limited in the amount of boost you can run on a stock NA bottom end. Run more than 8 PSI of boost and you may start melting cylinders. There are tons of FAQ pages on Talon (eclipse) forums about swapping to DOHC heads. I think swapping a whole motor would be less work in the long run and give you more options.
The wiring harness between an 8V and 16V is completely different. The wiring harness between a 16V turbo and non Turbo is pretty much the same except for a wire for the knock sensor.
Depending on how energetic you are:
You could pull a NA DOHC engine out of almost any Talon in the yard (look for a one without a broken timing belt). Take the harness and ECU too. Hook up the harness and the engine to your existing transmission (this is why it's good to have the narrow block, you don't have to change tranies). You now have a running truck. Want more power? Put a 1.8L head on the 2.0L block (found in some COLTs, and Hyundias)and you'll have more punch.
If it were me and I had time to do it... I'd find a JDM Turbo 4G63 engine (there are lots of importers up here, I don't know about down there). Get a Turbo harness and ECU from the wrecker and you almost have a turbo D50. You would just need to find intercoolers and plumb a bunch of pipe.
The last option would be to put in a turbo block and a non-turbo harness and ECU you (you would also need the intake and exhaust of the NA car). When you have the time you could then run the wire(s) for the knock sensor and change ECUs. This engine will be a little low on Compression if it's run NA.
I'm making all of these swaps sound overly simple. There are some years with different ECUs and what-not so you'll have to do some research... and ripping a wiring harness from a car is never an easy tasks (or figuring out how to put it in a truck).
If you watch the Talon forums you will probably find some good info on Colt and Talon forums. Hyundia forums might have some good info too since early 90's Hyndias used some Mitsubishi blue prints.
Another option (since you want a daily driver) is to pull a 2.4L narrow block out of a Hyundia or a COLT wagon and put it in. In theory you wouldn't have to change the harness but I have never read anything to confirm this so you'd have to do research or find out the hard way (which is always fun).
Nigel (AKA torquemonster) knows allot about these cars so I'm hoping he can call Bull$%^& on anything I got wrong, or better yet, add more detail.
The truck looks great! It looks like allot of fun so enjoy.

Cheers
Maurie

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