allochris
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Reged: 11/15/03
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was rotating my tires today. & overtorque 1 of my rear wheel stud. THe stud sheared, so I got 5 left. Is this really bad to run on hwy with until I get time to pop out the left rear axle & press out the backing plate, wheel bearings, ...etc?
(No, i didn't have torque gauge...i was using the stock wheel nut removal tool + a pipe ...  )
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Edited by allochris (07/02/06 06:28 PM)
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4Crawler
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I replaced a signle broken stud on the rear axle. There is a hole in the backing plate than you can line up and drive out the old stud and insert a new one with a punch and hammer.
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allochris
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awesome, that's good news. no need to press out the whole shagban of stuff. Thanks! I hope it works for any of the 6 stubs...
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/33x10.5BFG-AT/Open 4:88/1.5"BJS/
+2"Shackles/Add-a-Leaf/AirLift/Dual-Batteries
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Snowtoy
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Yes you can run with only 5 studs.
Besides breaking the lugstuds, over torquing and uneven torque value can cause rotoar warpage premature bearing failure, etc. You should really pick yourself up a torque wrench, even a cheap $20 one from Harbor Freight will do the trick.
The torque value on oem lug nuts/studs is only 100ft lbs.
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More than tread lightly. Leave it like you were never there, nor anyone else.
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Anonymous
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I think 100 ft-lbs might be a bit high. I'm thinking the FSM has it as 76 or so foot-lbs, which lines up with about 100 newton-meters. But we should really verify this.
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TNToy
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The actual torque spec isn't nearly as important as all the lugs being EVEN. (Assuming you don't deform or snap a stud or nut).
Uneven torquing on the studs is one of the biggest reasons brake rotor warp. They expand & contract constantly during stop & go driving or hard braking on the interstate, and if the clamping pressure isn't uniform, they're pretty much encouraged to warp.
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Snowtoy
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100ft lbs is/was what the tire industry went to to insure the wheels didn't fall off after new tires were put on, or after a rotate balance. If you remember, back in the early to mid '90's several of the tire stores were sued for tires comming off the customers cars. Apparently the problem when using the impact gun is that you don't get the same torque value on all the studs. This practice is what made the tire co's liable. After being sued, Sears Tire went to using a hand torque wrench and 100ft lbs, while other stores have gone to using torque sticks.
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More than tread lightly. Leave it like you were never there, nor anyone else.
'90 X-cab 4.88's 33 BFG AT's, rr ARB, Headers, Ignition upgrade, cold air induction.
'91 X-cab 5.29's 315's BFG MT's, rr ARB, custom bumper and flatbed
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Jeffstoyo
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You can also use some washers and just use a lug nut to reinstall a wheel stud. Just put some washers on the stud on the outside of the brake drum to allow the stud to be pulled through enough to seat the splines.
Jeff S.
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Red_Chili
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Quote:
I think 100 ft-lbs might be a bit high. I'm thinking the FSM has it as 76 or so foot-lbs, which lines up with about 100 newton-meters. But we should really verify this.
100 is pretty standard, EXCEPT for Toy studs, which tend to be a bit softer than others. Kinda not in keeping with the standards the rest of the truck is made to. Toy studs are happiest around 75 lbs./ft.
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allochris
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Quote:
You can also use some washers and just use a lug nut to reinstall a wheel stud. Just put some washers on the stud on the outside of the brake drum to allow the stud to be pulled through enough to seat the splines.
Jeff S.
Hum, could you expand on that?
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+2"Shackles/Add-a-Leaf/AirLift/Dual-Batteries
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