belijose
Wheeler
Reged: 10/13/10
Posts: 102
Loc: florida, USA
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hello, I got a raider v6 mt and when I bought it the guy that sold it to me told me that it had a locker in the rear... However, the rear axle looks to be welded together because when you turn the tires don't turn the way they should be and it is hard t make a u turn. I have read some where that the rear axle from genII monteros with mitsu lockers fit in the 2 door raiders. however i am wondering if the gears of both axles would have to be the same in order for the front axle to work properly. if so what gearing should i be looking for.
the badge in my raider says 4636 gear ratio.
thank you in advance
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1989 Dodge Raider v6 3.0 L, MT.
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Mudraider
Body Damage is Cool
Reged: 12/16/07
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Loc: Orange Park, FL
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Yes they do and they are awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 I have 35's on mine and it feels so much better with the rear discs. Where are you at in Florida?
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87 Raider,3.5 soon,, 35's w/ a 4" BL,
bumpers, sliders, OME 2" lift Dakar springs, 98 Air locker, disc brake rear end, Gen 2 front brakes, plh manual hubs,
88 SWB-2.6/5spd, 2" BL, bumpers and sliders, Starion shift knob
89 SWB, V-6 6SPD, OME Shocks, 15X10 w/33's, 2"BL
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off-roader
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Reged: 01/16/00
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hello, I got a raider v6 mt and when I bought it the guy that sold it to me told me that it had a locker in the rear... However, the rear axle looks to be welded together because when you turn the tires don't turn the way they should be and it is hard t make a u turn. I have read some where that the rear axle from genII monteros with mitsu lockers fit in the 2 door raiders. however i am wondering if the gears of both axles would have to be the same in order for the front axle to work properly. if so what gearing should i be looking for.
the badge in my raider says 4636 gear ratio.
thank you in advance
You may have what's known as a Lincoln Locker. It's essentially a standard open differential that's had the spider gears welded together so that both the left and right tires turn at the same speed all the time.
The gen II locker is a selectable air actuated locker similar to an ARB locker. A selectable locker can be disabled so that it acts as an Open differential allowing the tire on one side to turn at a different rate than the tire on the other side.
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hazy_daze
Roll Me Over
Reged: 05/22/07
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Loc: Athens, Georgia
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On a GenI, the data tag under the hood (on the firewall or the radiator support), should read either 4.625 or 4.875. If you're seeing 4.636 on the rear axle tag, then you already have a GenII axle in there. Look for a hose coming off the passenger side of the axle. If it's there, then you have the locking axle. Go to a salvage yard and find a GenII and look under the right rear passenger seat in the drug smuggle compartment. There you'll find the correct pump to actuate your locker. It can be wired switched to the battery to work, or anything fancier if you so choose. DO NOT apply any more than 5 psi to the hose or you'll blow out the factory actuator bladder. If the hose is not there, then, as has been said, you've likely got a welded axle. Not terrible to drive on the road, but not selectable and turn offable. Report back with your findings, please.
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belijose
Wheeler
Reged: 10/13/10
Posts: 102
Loc: florida, USA
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I live in winter springs fl it is in the Orlando area..
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1989 Dodge Raider v6 3.0 L, MT.
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off-roader
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I live in winter springs fl it is in the Orlando area..
That's all fine and dandy but did you find a locker actuation switch yet or an air line on the diff pumpkin? 
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belijose
Wheeler
Reged: 10/13/10
Posts: 102
Loc: florida, USA
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yes you are right, I got confused with the gear ratios. I checked today and it says 4625. So my question now would be. What gears should i look for when looking at the gen II axles ? 4636? and since the gear ratios are different don't i have to change the front as well? my understanding is that if i don't have the same gears, once in 4wd the wheel will spin at different times. I am right ?
thanks
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belijose
Wheeler
Reged: 10/13/10
Posts: 102
Loc: florida, USA
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no, got confuse with all the info I've been reading i actually have the axle that comes with the swb 4625 gears.
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1989 Dodge Raider v6 3.0 L, MT.
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hazy_daze
Roll Me Over
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If there are large differences in gear ratio then, yes you'd want to change the front to match. In our case, 4.625 and 4.636 are close enough to not cause issues. I've been running this setup for 3 years. The good news is that with your truck, you can find an axle from an SR (preferrably a 94-96) and use it because you have a coil sprung rear end. When searching, you'll also want the driveshaft, trailing arms, emergency brake cables and locker pump. It's normally a bolt up swap, with the occasional exception of the driveshaft needing work at a driveline shop. Only a couple of us have had to have that done.
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belijose
Wheeler
Reged: 10/13/10
Posts: 102
Loc: florida, USA
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what has to be done on the drive shaft? if i use the one from the gen 2 isn't it going to be longer?
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