0778drz110
Body Damage is Cool
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This is for discussing ideas and designs for Mitsubishi SAS.
Gen 1 SAS:
Landraider
Lordtrunks
http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1165424&an=0&page=0#Post1165424
Ncdieselwrench
http://s60.photobucket.com/albums/h33/hdchevyguy/raider/?action=view¤t=HPIM0688-1.jpg
Gen 2 SAS:
Misterbishi (Bitsamissin on the Outerlimits board)
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic24604-0-asc-0.php
D50/mighty Max SAS:
Best one yet 
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=452534
Axles:
Mitsubishis are driver's drop so you must use or modify an axle to have driver's drop.
Dana 44:
*Many lug patterns, both driver and passenger drop.
*lowest gears are 5.89s
*medium weight, narrow or fullwidth
*Good for ~40" tires on a lightweight truck
Most tend to use a Jeep Wagoneer axle with the 6x5.5 lug pattern so they don't have to buy new wheels.
Dana 60:
*8-lug I think
*lowest gears are 7.17s
*heavy and fullwidth
*good for ~47" tires on lightweight truck
Toyota:
*6x5.5 lug pattern passenger drop.
*lowest gears are 5.71
*lightweight and narrow
*good for ~40" tires on a lightweight truck
Used overseas because they more common than Dana axles.
Must be flipped to use Mitsubishi Transfercase.
Front Suspension:
My collection of pictures I saved for reference:
This is LandRaider's rig:
front mount
Rear mount
Random Pictures from 4x4wire Tech
*Jeep YJ leaves
Pictures:
unknown owner
Landraider
Misterbishi
some russians
http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showflat.p...part=1&vc=1
Feel free to add 
Discuss. 
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1988 Montero SWB: 2.6L 5spd 38.5x15 TSL Boggers on 15x14 wheels, 2" body lift, 2" suspension lift, cut fenders, roof rack, 6 55w lights, 10,000lb. winch, pintle hitch
1997 GMC Yukon SLT 4x4: Vortec 5.7L, 4L60E auto, NP243, bluetooth, nav, 4 12" subs, LEDs, HIDs, 2 7" LCDs
Edited by 0778drz110 (07/23/09 07:21 PM)
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0778drz110
Body Damage is Cool
Reged: 08/31/08
Posts: 1171
Loc: Boca Raton, FL
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*Copied from Pirate4x4*
Specs:
Front axle
Zuk = 165
Toyota = 220
Dana 30 tj = 230
Spider 9 = 325
Diamond toy = 350
Camo’s 60 =355
Dana 44 60wms = 386
609 = 400-450 depending on wall size and inner c’s
Dana 44 full width = 450
Dana 60 ford = 485
Dana 60 chevy = 525
Volvo = 600
Mog 404 =600
Mog 406 = 650
Rockwell w/o drums and narrowed = 662
Rockwell w/o drums = 682
U1300 = 710
rockwell w/ drums = 842lbs
toy housing = 50
Diamond 609 w/ .25 wall chromo and stock 60 inner C's = 68
Diamond 609 w/ .375 wall dom with Dedenbear inners = 100
dana 60 housing = 160
Rear axle
Zuk = 130
Toyota = 150
Dana 44 tj = 150
Camo’s 60 =225
Ford 9 =225
Dana 44 fw = 250
Dana 60 =300
Corp 14ff 3/4 ton version w/ disc = 375
Corp 14ff 3/4 ton w/ drums = 420
Corp 14ff w/disc = 475
Dana 70hd =480
Dana 80 = 505
Rockwell w/o drums = 532
Corp 14ff = 550
Mog 404 = 550
Mog 406 = 620
rockwell stock = 692
Motor
amc v8 = 600
amc s6 = 500
buick 3.8 w/supercharger = 440
cady 500 = 500
Newstar = 300
ecotec = 310
Shorstar = 325
northstar v8 = 413
Ls1 = 425
chevy 4.3 - 425
Chevy 350 = 500-575
chevy 454 = 675
ford 3.8 = 300
Ford 5.0 - 450 lbs
ford 351 = 525
ford 460 = 720
dodge 360 = 550
dodge 400 = 620
dodge 440 = 670
dodge 426 hemi = 726
olds 455 = 605
Subaru 2.2 =270
saturn 1.9 single cam motor and transaxle 330 lbs
Toyota 20R = 315
Toyota 22r = 291
Toyota 3.0L - 360
Toyota 3.4 v6 = 550
vw flat four = 200
tracker/sidekick 1.6 = 250
Trans
Toyota 5 speed = 107
Powerglide = 100
TH400: = 135
TH700: = 155
TH350: = 120
4L60E = 180
904 = 106
C6 = 175
t-90 = 75
Transfer case
Toyota = 80
Dual Toyota = 120
Toyota doubler only = 40
NP203 Range box = 87
NP205 = 135
NP208 = 75
NP241 = 115
Dana 300 = 85
Dana 18 = 77
Atlas 2 = 100
sammy = 55
Tires
48" goodyear military tire 225lbs
53" goodyear military tire 300lbs
37in krawler = 81
35/16 bogger = 85
37/13 bogger = 84
39.5/18 bogger = 113
44/18 bogger = 141
54/19.5 bogger = 189
35/15.5 sx = 85
36/12.5 sx = 72
38.5/14 sx = 89
42/15 sx = 116
35/12.5 trxes = 66
37/12.5 trxes = 72
36/13 irok = 66
39/13 irok = 76
42/14 irok = 95
49//21 irok = 169
34/10.5 ltb = 58
35/12 lyb = 67
40/16 ltb = 101
47/17 ltb = 166
35.5/9.5 (q78) tsl = 66
35/15 tsl = 82
36/12.5 tsl = 65
38/12.5 tsl = 72
38.5/16 tsl = 90
39.5/15 tsl = 97
42/15 tsl = 107
44/18.5 tsl = 121
37/12.5 mtr = 82
40/13 mtr = 93
Wheels
15x10 allied beadlock = 35.
20"x12" double beadlock = 69
Hummer rim w/pvc = 42
14x15 steel = 40
16x8 cast aluminum rims = 21
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1988 Montero SWB: 2.6L 5spd 38.5x15 TSL Boggers on 15x14 wheels, 2" body lift, 2" suspension lift, cut fenders, roof rack, 6 55w lights, 10,000lb. winch, pintle hitch
1997 GMC Yukon SLT 4x4: Vortec 5.7L, 4L60E auto, NP243, bluetooth, nav, 4 12" subs, LEDs, HIDs, 2 7" LCDs
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0778drz110
Body Damage is Cool
Reged: 08/31/08
Posts: 1171
Loc: Boca Raton, FL
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Spring info:
http://www.4x4spot.com/misc__spring_information.htm
*copied from pirate4x4*
44044 SPRINGS
44044s are Rancho Jeep Wagoneer Lift Springs.
Length: 47" (Length is eye to eye)
Center Pin split (front/rear) 22.5"/24.5"
Bushing: 2 3/4" & 3"
http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_u...ith%20dims.jpg
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ALL PRO OFFROAD SPRING LENGTHS by Chris Gieger
Part Number, Overall Spring Length, Center Pin to Front*
TOYFRONT5, 47 5/8", 22 1/2"
TOYFRONT4, 46.1/2", 22 1/8"
TOYFRONT5STK, 46 3/4", 23 1/8"
TOYFRONT4STK, 45 5/8", 22 1/2"
TOYFRONT3, 46", 21 1/2"
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Toyota springs
79-85 Toyota front
Flat length = 45"
Front Half = 22.5"
Rear Half = 22.5"
Width = 2.36"
Front Eyelet = 18mm ID
Rear Eyelet = 18mm ID
79-83 Toyota Rear
Flat length = 48"
Front Half = 21.125"
Rear Half = 26.875"
Width = 2.36"
Front Eyelet = 18mm ID
Rear Eyelet = 18mm ID
84-88 Toyota Rear
Flat length = 48"
Front Half = 20.5"
Rear Half = 27.5"
Width = 2.36"
Front Eyelet = 14mm ID
Rear Eyelet = 18mm ID
89-95 Toyota Rear
Flat length = 51"
Front Half = 21.5"
Rear Half = 29.5"
Width = 2.36"
Front Eyelet = 14mm ID
Rear Eyelet = 18mm ID
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Jeep YJ leaves
45" eye to eye
22.5" to the pin both sides
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1988 Montero SWB: 2.6L 5spd 38.5x15 TSL Boggers on 15x14 wheels, 2" body lift, 2" suspension lift, cut fenders, roof rack, 6 55w lights, 10,000lb. winch, pintle hitch
1997 GMC Yukon SLT 4x4: Vortec 5.7L, 4L60E auto, NP243, bluetooth, nav, 4 12" subs, LEDs, HIDs, 2 7" LCDs
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LandRaider
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Reged: 09/04/01
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I'd say that a Stock Wagoneer axle is good for 33's with no worry of breakage. ChromO's help it out a BUNCH!! I'd say that a D44 with Chromoly axles would be safe up to 38's. I run mine with 36's.
The way I did my SAS was different than most do. I sorta built the lift into the truck when I did it. I also used alot of stock suspension parts off the shelf from diff. manufacturers. The spring mounts front and rear were taken off of 70's dodge truck frames. The Shock towers are F250 Mounts from the dealer that are welded directly to the frame rail. The Leafs are lift springs from a wrangler. Shocks came off the back of a New dodge truck(I think)
If anyone has any specific questions about my SAS, setting up diff's, caster angle, setting up gears...etc.. , I'd be more than happy to answer them.
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87 Raider 4.3 700R4 NP231CHD
Solid Axles, Selectable Lockers, 36's
87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1
Almost all stock.
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0778drz110
Body Damage is Cool
Reged: 08/31/08
Posts: 1171
Loc: Boca Raton, FL
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Parts stores:
http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/home.php
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/index.php
http://www.sky-manufacturing.com/new/products.php?category=all&sub_category=all&page=8
4-link rear kits:
http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Universal-4-Link-Weld-On-Rear-Kit-p-16802.html
3-link front kit
http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Universal-3-Link-Weld-On-Front-Kit-p-16803.html
Coils:
Coil specs and tech
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=723229
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1988 Montero SWB: 2.6L 5spd 38.5x15 TSL Boggers on 15x14 wheels, 2" body lift, 2" suspension lift, cut fenders, roof rack, 6 55w lights, 10,000lb. winch, pintle hitch
1997 GMC Yukon SLT 4x4: Vortec 5.7L, 4L60E auto, NP243, bluetooth, nav, 4 12" subs, LEDs, HIDs, 2 7" LCDs
Edited by 0778drz110 (07/23/09 08:41 PM)
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0778drz110
Body Damage is Cool
Reged: 08/31/08
Posts: 1171
Loc: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
I'd say that a Stock Wagoneer axle is good for 33's with no worry of breakage. ChromO's help it out a BUNCH!! I'd say that a D44 with Chromoly axles would be safe up to 38's. I run mine with 36's.
The way I did my SAS was different than most do. I sorta built the lift into the truck when I did it. I also used alot of stock suspension parts off the shelf from diff. manufacturers. The spring mounts front and rear were taken off of 70's dodge truck frames. The Shock towers are F250 Mounts from the dealer that are welded directly to the frame rail. The Leafs are lift springs from a wrangler. Shocks came off the back of a New dodge truck(I think)
If anyone has any specific questions about my SAS, setting up diff's, caster angle, setting up gears...etc.. , I'd be more than happy to answer them.
what lift specifically? I think I remember asking you this already  I think it was 2.5"??
f250 mounts...will have to add those 
Please discuss everyone! What are your dreams? LOL!
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1988 Montero SWB: 2.6L 5spd 38.5x15 TSL Boggers on 15x14 wheels, 2" body lift, 2" suspension lift, cut fenders, roof rack, 6 55w lights, 10,000lb. winch, pintle hitch
1997 GMC Yukon SLT 4x4: Vortec 5.7L, 4L60E auto, NP243, bluetooth, nav, 4 12" subs, LEDs, HIDs, 2 7" LCDs
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0778drz110
Body Damage is Cool
Reged: 08/31/08
Posts: 1171
Loc: Boca Raton, FL
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Cheap and easy!
Ford Part #E5TZ-18183-A
http://www.partsmike.com/store/store.php?crn=221&rn=1103&action=show_detail
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/F250shocktower.htm
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1988 Montero SWB: 2.6L 5spd 38.5x15 TSL Boggers on 15x14 wheels, 2" body lift, 2" suspension lift, cut fenders, roof rack, 6 55w lights, 10,000lb. winch, pintle hitch
1997 GMC Yukon SLT 4x4: Vortec 5.7L, 4L60E auto, NP243, bluetooth, nav, 4 12" subs, LEDs, HIDs, 2 7" LCDs
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TOASTY
Trail Leader
Reged: 01/17/02
Posts: 5018
Loc: Gilbert AZ, US.
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Coming Soon!
Gen 2.5 SAS:
Toasty
Yeah thats right, and it's SWB! Just need LT's SAS'd '88 out of the garage so i can build this monster.
Maybe i'll post some pics of his truck here.
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Az Crew, full fledged member!
"Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K." -Ted.
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0778drz110
Body Damage is Cool
Reged: 08/31/08
Posts: 1171
Loc: Boca Raton, FL
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Parts stores:
http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/home.php
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/index.php
http://www.sky-manufacturing.com/new/products.php?category=all&sub_category=all&page=8
http://www.partsmike.com/store/store.php
http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/
http://www.independent4x.com/
http://www.trail-gear.com/index.html
http://www.bluetorchfab.com/store/
Quote:
Coming Soon!
Gen 2.5 SAS:
Toasty
Yeah thats right, and it's SWB! Just need LT's SAS'd '88 out of the garage so i can build this monster.
Maybe i'll post some pics of his truck here.
Sweet! post pics!
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1988 Montero SWB: 2.6L 5spd 38.5x15 TSL Boggers on 15x14 wheels, 2" body lift, 2" suspension lift, cut fenders, roof rack, 6 55w lights, 10,000lb. winch, pintle hitch
1997 GMC Yukon SLT 4x4: Vortec 5.7L, 4L60E auto, NP243, bluetooth, nav, 4 12" subs, LEDs, HIDs, 2 7" LCDs
Edited by 0778drz110 (07/25/09 05:07 PM)
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0778drz110
Body Damage is Cool
Reged: 08/31/08
Posts: 1171
Loc: Boca Raton, FL
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http://www.precisiongear.com/toy8.htm
Ratio Ring/Pinion Color
3.42 ...42/12... Purple
3.90 ...39/10... Red...
4.10 ...41/10... Pink..
4.11 ...37/09... Orange
4.30 ...43/10... Blue..
4.37 ...35/08... Green.
4.56 ...41/09... Yellow
4.88 ...39/08... White.
5.29 ...37/07... None..
5.71 ...40/07... None..
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1988 Montero SWB: 2.6L 5spd 38.5x15 TSL Boggers on 15x14 wheels, 2" body lift, 2" suspension lift, cut fenders, roof rack, 6 55w lights, 10,000lb. winch, pintle hitch
1997 GMC Yukon SLT 4x4: Vortec 5.7L, 4L60E auto, NP243, bluetooth, nav, 4 12" subs, LEDs, HIDs, 2 7" LCDs
Edited by 0778drz110 (07/23/09 08:59 PM)
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