4x4Wire Trail Talk Forums: Jeep, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Pajero, Isuzu, Kia, 4WD, 4x4, SUV, Off-Road and OutdoorWire Forums

4x4Wire TrailTalk Forums Index

4x4Wire | OutdoorWire | MUIRNet News | 4x4Voice | 4x4Wire on FaceBook
Galleries | Offtopic Chat | Garage Sale | Items Wanted | Vendors | Trailrides and Events | Recreational Access and Landuse


4x4Wire Mitsubishi Trail Talk Forums

More Mitsubishi on 4x4Wire: 4x4Wire Mitsubishi Section | Mitsubishi Tech
4x4Wire TrailTalk Mitsubishi Forums: Mitsubishi 4x4 and SUV Tech | Mitsubishi Diesels | Mitsubishi Archives


Mitsubishi Forums >> Mitsubishi 4x4 & SUV Tech

Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | >> (show all)
geewiz
Need a Spot


Reged: 02/07/09
Posts: 2
1997 Montero LS 3.5 liter V6 Timming Belt change
      #1141736 - 02/08/09 05:15 PM

Hi everyone I'm fixin to start a timing belt/water pump change on my 3.5L Montero LS after speaking with the parts guy at NAPA he stated that as soon as I releave tension on my timing belt my cams would snapp around and possible do some real damage and said I needed a tool to hold those cams in place. Is this true? if so could someone tell me where to get it, or is there another way? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
MCMILO
Getting the Wheeling Fever


Reged: 01/22/11
Posts: 30
Loc: Mobile, Alabama
Re: 1997 Montero LS 3.5 liter V6 Timming Belt change [Re: geewiz]
      #1236407 - 01/24/11 02:32 AM

Anyone know of a guide for the 3.5L SOHC engine? I got the shop manuals but a part list would be cool of what I might need to change since I'm there already.
I've seen plenty in the archives but all seem to be 3.5L DOHC or the 3L SOHC engines.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Mad_Scientist
Roll Me Over


Reged: 04/25/06
Posts: 3587
Loc: An Englishman in Huntersville ...
Re: 1997 Montero LS 3.5 liter V6 Timming Belt change [Re: MCMILO]
      #1236415 - 01/24/11 07:26 AM

He is right, the cams will do that, especially the pass side. It's happened to me more than once with no ill effects. I can't remember if the cam has a hex section on it (my other car does) to hold it, but in order to remove the valve covers a lot of other components must be removed. I didn't do this and it's not necessary IMO. You can't use the cam gear nuts to hold the cams because you need to remove the gears to replace the seals. The second time I replaced my TB, I just gently allowed the cams to rest where they wanted to using a wrench on the gear nut to guide them and prevent them from snapping round. Then I removed the cam gears. The pass side cam (if I remember rightly) really sits on a knife edge, in terms of wanting to snap back, when you line up the timing marks so be ready.

Make sure you get the tension right following the factory procedures. It can be a pain (spells and a wand help ), but it needs to be right for obvious reasons.

Justice's procedure thread for the DOHC is the same on the SOHC, just 2 less cams and a shorter belt

If you don't know what was changed last time or ever, I would replace;

TB (Mitsu for me but others have used belts produced by Gates and Conti, I think)
hydraulic tensioner (Mitsu for sure)
tensioner puley (I'm running Dayco. 40k miles later no issues)
idler pulley (same as above)
water pump (Mitsu will last 120k miles, aftermarket I would replace after 60k. I just replace the factory pump each time anyway as it's just not worth the hassle of changing it if it goes before 120k miles)
cam and crank seals
crank bolt (Mitsu. New factory design)
accessory belts and idlers

It's not cheap, but a lot cheaper than a new engine.

I may have forgotten something, but someone will chime in if I have.

You can remove the radiator fan and shroud together without removing the radiator, but having the radiator out the way does give you a bit more room and this would be a good time to have it cleaned if needed. The AC condenser bolts are best got at through the d/s wheel well. I didn't know this the first time I changed my TB and it was a royal pain in the . Later, I lifted the wheel well rubber flap and there they were...doh!

Also, if you are planning on changing the valve guide seals don't think of them as a 'while I'm in there' doing the TB job. The cams do not need to to removed to change the valve guide seals and the job can be done without touching the TB. I learned that the hard way too

Good luck. Take your time and be sure the set the belt tensioner right. It's good to have some other people with 3.5L SOHC engines wrenching on their trucks

--------------------
'97 Montero 'LSR' - 4.6 gears & factory rear locker, 33" Procomp muds on 15x8 steelies, 50mm coil spacers, T-bar crank, Airlift, sans rear sway, 50mm rear frame & fuel tank lift, Aisins, ARB front bumper + 10k lb winch, 50mm DIY body lift, rock sliders, cut rear quarter panels...


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
MCMILO
Getting the Wheeling Fever


Reged: 01/22/11
Posts: 30
Loc: Mobile, Alabama
Re: 1997 Montero LS 3.5 liter V6 Timming Belt change [Re: Mad_Scientist]
      #1236428 - 01/24/11 12:55 PM

Thanks I appreciate it. I've got everything removed except the Crank pulley and am doing that today. Doing a lot of calling around town pricing parts, I'm a licensed dealer so I get a discount at the Mitsu stealer...lets hope they got what I need. I didn't take photos breaking it down but I will as I'm rebuilding.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
xFezx
Wheeler


Reged: 11/28/09
Posts: 226
Loc: San Antonio, TX (Lackland AFB)
Re: 1997 Montero LS 3.5 liter V6 Timming Belt change [Re: MCMILO]
      #1236468 - 01/24/11 10:09 PM

Quote:

I'm a licensed dealer so I get a discount at the Mitsu stealer




So what are you saying? I could use some OEM parts on discount.

--------------------
You can call me Fez
'95 SR 15x8 steel rims w/ 33x12.5 Duratracs, cranked torsion bars, "Baja" lights
'09 Nissan Sentra SR


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
MontyMcV
Trail Leader


Reged: 06/04/03
Posts: 7044
Loc: Cleve-burg OH USA
Re: 1997 Montero LS 3.5 liter V6 Timming Belt change [Re: geewiz]
      #1236470 - 01/24/11 10:53 PM

If you align the cam / crank gears with their timing marks, they shouldn't go pop and move.

Don't forget the o-ring on the backside of the water pump. Not all aftermarket pumps come with it. NO NOT REUSE THE ONE THAT'S ON.

--------------------
Big Truck 2: 00, 3.5, Endeavor, 94k, stock for now
Big Truck 1: 95, MT, >Gone<
Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top
Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 29k miles!
FSMs: MitsubishiLinks.com


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
airbats801
Mudrunner


Reged: 12/01/06
Posts: 434
Loc: portland, or
Re: 1997 Montero LS 3.5 liter V6 Timming Belt change [Re: MontyMcV]
      #1236475 - 01/24/11 11:54 PM

Like the above said, just make sure you have it all lined up and they shouldnt snap. Just be real careful not to move them much when you are putting the new belt on.

--------------------
8 Starion SHP, 87 mitsubishi van, , 81 galant g54bt, 78 lancer g54bt, 1965 Mitsubishi Debonair Deluxe
87 swb montero offroad pkg goin g54bt with sr locker 33x12.5 dual bouncy.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
MCMILO
Getting the Wheeling Fever


Reged: 01/22/11
Posts: 30
Loc: Mobile, Alabama
Re: 1997 Montero LS 3.5 liter V6 Timming Belt change [Re: MontyMcV]
      #1236491 - 01/25/11 12:14 PM

Thanks for the tips, keep them coming. I'm still debating whether or not to make a crank pulley tool or buying one(it's still on) and I'm not rushed to finish.

As to the WP gasket/O-ring, does OEM come with it? Or do you guys know of a parts manual online so I can get the PN's?

Lastly, I get a discount from the dealer's mark-up of their parts and I don't pay tax on them...you can still get discounted OEM parts from some online stores so getting them thru me wouldn't help you; i.e. shipping and my effort(sry). The only reason I mentioned it was that some people recommend OEM unless price were an object but I can get OEM for almost as much as after-market.

Edited by MCMILO (01/25/11 12:16 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
MontyMcV
Trail Leader


Reged: 06/04/03
Posts: 7044
Loc: Cleve-burg OH USA
Re: 1997 Montero LS 3.5 liter V6 Timming Belt change [Re: MCMILO]
      #1236516 - 01/25/11 04:10 PM

Can't recall on the o-ring coming with OEM WP. I am in the aftermarket pump, changed with every belt mode. I know the o-ring definitely has its own OEM PN as I have bought them. I have Mistu's ASA parts software that you can download.

--------------------
Big Truck 2: 00, 3.5, Endeavor, 94k, stock for now
Big Truck 1: 95, MT, >Gone<
Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top
Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 29k miles!
FSMs: MitsubishiLinks.com


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
MCMILO
Getting the Wheeling Fever


Reged: 01/22/11
Posts: 30
Loc: Mobile, Alabama
Re: 1997 Montero LS 3.5 liter V6 Timming Belt change [Re: MontyMcV]
      #1237214 - 02/04/11 01:05 PM

Thanks bro...that ought to come in handy. OEM WP does come with the O-ring, some after-market do too but not all.
Finally getting around to making my crank pulley holder tool.

Edited by MCMILO (02/04/11 01:07 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | >> (show all)



Extra information
8 registered and 44 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  LandRaider, PHIL, off-roader 

Print Topic

Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      UBBCode is enabled

Rating:
Topic views: 6644

Rate this topic

Jump to



4x4Wire.com | OutdoorWire | MUIRNet News | 4x4Voice | 4x4Wire on FaceBook
About 4x4Wire | Advertiser's Guide |
This site and all original materials contained herein are Copyright 1999 - 2013 by OutdoorWire, Inc. -- All Rights Reserved.
The use of this website, OutdoorWire, or any of its publications or services is subject to the terms of use agreement.
You may link freely to this site, but no further use is allowed without the express written permission of the owner of this material.
All corporate trademarks are the property of their respective owners.
This publication and OutdoorWire, Inc. assume no liability for your use of the material contained within this site.
OutdoorWire, 4x4Wire, SUVWire, JeepWire, MUIRNet-News, and 4x4Voice are all trademarks and publications of OutdoorWire, Inc.


Contact 4x4Wire | Privacy statement 4x4Wire TrailTalk Forums

Powered by UBB.threads™ 6.5.5

Generated in 0.021 seconds in which 0.007 seconds were spent on a total of 13 queries. Zlib compression enabled.