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ldrmn
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Reged: 07/11/05
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new buyer...reliability question...
      #752937 - 07/11/05 11:01 PM

im thinking about purchasing a 99/00 jeep cherokee. ive heard mixed reviews on their reliability, just wondering if anyone here can help me out on my next purchase...

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Re: new buyer...reliability question... [Re: ldrmn]
      #753190 - 07/12/05 01:43 PM

Just as reliable as the next vehicle, as long as it hasn't been beaten around. I think these "reliability tests" favor street-only vehicles such as cars. 4x4s require more maintenance than a typical car, especially if it has been used off road. The problem is that these ratings groups compare trucks to cars and don't differentiate true issues from maintenance neglect.

That being said, read and post in forums (like this one ) and see what people think about the Cherokee. Check the exhaust manifold for cracks, as this is a problem with the 4.0L design. Also check the frame for breaks, weld repairs, couges or anything else that would indicate rough off-road use. Test drive it and do normal used-vehicle checks to determine if you want to buy it and what is wrong with it.


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Fred Blackstone
Body Damage is Cool


Reged: 01/20/00
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Re: new buyer...reliability question... [Re: ldrmn]
      #753620 - 07/13/05 09:11 AM

the XJ Cherokees are pretty damn good SUV's! Just wondering, what specifically has been said by others that would make you think the XJ is not reliable?

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94 YJ, SOA, 2-1/2 Alcans, ARB-front, Detroit-Rear, 4.56:1 gears, Oasis Trailhead compressor, 4:1 Terra Lo, 37x12.50x15 SSR's, 8000 lb Ramsey, & etc.


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BigJim
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Re: new buyer...reliability question... [Re: Fred Blackstone]
      #753668 - 07/13/05 11:28 AM

In fact Fred, I do not see ANY particular brand of vehicle sitting beside the road...do you?
With all the modern engines and stuff in ALL brands I would not be afraid to make ANY purchase.. cept maybe a front-wheel drive! Never have liked em.
Big Jim

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ldrmn
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Re: new buyer...reliability question... [Re: BigJim]
      #753899 - 07/13/05 07:06 PM

good deal! i just heard that jeeps have a tendancy for minor problems that become a pain in the ass. i know all cars can be like that, but its good to know jeeps are reliable. another concern was that they are so cheap! i could get a 99-00 with about 50k for around 10k....i currently drive a gti, me and some friends are taking a trip to glacier in a couple months and i was thinkg about getting one for the trip.

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Re: new buyer...reliability question... [Re: ldrmn]
      #755433 - 07/16/05 06:32 PM

definetely get the 4.0l its dumb not to and theyll run forever...definitely check the exhaust manifold and run it with the hood up to listen for a wierd exhaust note its the manifold its not to expensive but its a bitchto change. and jeep is way more reliable than some other crap (toyotas and nissans) and other sh't like that. good luck and be sure to put a few thousand miles on it b4 you take it on the trip

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mudking82
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Reged: 06/04/05
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Re: new buyer...reliability question... [Re: ]
      #755500 - 07/16/05 09:28 PM

96zjjeeper you have some serious prejudice problems!! This is the second post I have seen you make where you are knocking another manufacturer! Do Jeep's last good? Yes, but so don't 99% of all other vehicles if you take decent care of them. I'm an ASE certified mechanic, and the most reliable vehicles out there in GENERAL are NOT Jeeps! They seem to be Honda's, Toyota's, and Nissan's, the very same "POS" that you just knocked! And I am not prejudice either, as I own, and enjoy driving my 89 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L. So get over your ego issues with your Jeeps, respect every one else's vehicle, and just enjoy the forums!

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Jeremy
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BeaterToyota
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Reged: 09/30/03
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Re: new buyer...reliability question... [Re: mudking82]
      #755515 - 07/16/05 10:08 PM

Quote:

im thinking about purchasing a 99/00 jeep cherokee. ive heard mixed reviews on their reliability, just wondering if anyone here can help me out on my next purchase...



I have a '99 XJ that I bought about 3.5 years ago. It had 36,000 miles on it, and it's now at about 90,000. In my opinion, the 4.0 is one of the better/more reliable American engines made during the '90s.

Overall it's been a great rig, but here is the rundown of the problems I've had:
1) The guage cluster (speedo/tach/etc.) would go out from time to time. It's common on late XJs and sometimes can be repaired, but sometimes the connector is faulty and the whole cluster needs replaced. Mine was covered by warranty.
2) The automatic window on the passenger side front door is screwed up. Another common problem with late XJs. Fixed under warranty, but it still has intermittent problems.
3) Jeep brakes aren't that great. The brakes on my XJ are marginal, at best, even with stock tires/rims/etc. The brakes on my '00 TJ are even worse (32" BFGs).




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96zjjeeper you have some serious prejudice problems!! This is the second post I have seen you make where you are knocking another manufacturer! So get over your ego issues with your Jeeps, respect every one else's vehicle, and just enjoy the forums!



Good post.
I have two (relatively new) Jeeps and an old beat up Toyota that I've owed for 13 years. There are good and bad things about all of them.

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Jason

'88 Toyota, flatbed junker, Inchworm dual cases, spooled rear.


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Fred Blackstone
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Re: new buyer...reliability question... [Re: mudking82]
      #755543 - 07/16/05 11:45 PM

Quote:

96zjjeeper you have some serious prejudice problems!! This is the second post I have seen you make where you are knocking another manufacturer! Do Jeep's last good? Yes, but so don't 99% of all other vehicles if you take decent care of them. I'm an ASE certified mechanic, and the most reliable vehicles out there in GENERAL are NOT Jeeps! They seem to be Honda's, Toyota's, and Nissan's, the very same "POS" that you just knocked! And I am not prejudice either, as I own, and enjoy driving my 89 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L. So get over your ego issues with your Jeeps, respect every one else's vehicle, and just enjoy the forums!




Mud ... you're way overboard! this Jeep forum is exactly where young people (and old) can express their bias and passion for Jeep vehicles! Hey, Yota guys write similar things on the the Toyota Forum to disparage Jeeps! We commonly have visitors' post here to mock Jeeps. It's just the way it is ... some people just have to rant about why they decided to purchase one particular vehicle over another. No big deal. There's no rule that we have to respect other's vehicles ... What? Are there 4x4 police monitoring boardmembers now? ASE certification doesn't mean crap in the real world, and it certainly doesn't make you any less bias, ... or any more knowledgeable to assess which vehicles are the most reliable! I suspect that many brands are reliable vehicles; the idea that Asian vehicles are superior appears to be a myth, IMHO. If you doubt my opinion, just read the other forums.


Now, I understand, Mudking! I see that 96ZJ posted over on the Toyota Forum, too. He was REALLY out of line! Looks like the toy monitor took care of this one over-zealous Jeep owner.

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94 YJ, SOA, 2-1/2 Alcans, ARB-front, Detroit-Rear, 4.56:1 gears, Oasis Trailhead compressor, 4:1 Terra Lo, 37x12.50x15 SSR's, 8000 lb Ramsey, & etc.

Edited by Fred Blackstone (07/17/05 12:14 AM)


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mudking82
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Re: new buyer...reliability question... [Re: Fred Blackstone]
      #755556 - 07/17/05 12:46 AM

Alright, so maybe I came on a little strong, must of been the mood I was in at the time. And I am glad you noticed his other post, now you see a little more where I am coming from. As for you saying that a mechanic doesn't have any more basis then the common person to be able to see what vehicles are more reliable then others, I would have to strongly disagree. I see hundreds of vehicles a month go through our shop, within a short period of time you begin to notice trends in certain makes/models as to issues they have. When you see many of the same make/model come through with 200k+ miles on them and they are just in there for maitenance issues, and they are still going strong, what does that tell you? On the other hand when you have never seen another particular make/model make it to 200k miles, but you have seen them with engine, transmission, etc. problems, what does that tell you?

Not sure how you can say ASE certification doesn't mean crap, since many shops won't even hire you unless you have certification! And most ASE certified mechanics will get paid more then their fellow employees who don't have certification? But like you said, you are entitled to your own opinion.

Anyhow, like you and others have said, all makes have good things and bad about them. A lot of it comes down to personal preferenc. But your own personal preference is still no reason to call another persons vehicle a POS. By the way, the 99+00 cherokees are rated an 8.2 out of 10 on average from 200 owner reviews on msn.com Let's just all get along and have another round

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Jeremy
88 Toyota Pickup 22RE, 31x10.5's, Warn M8000, Marlin rear bumper


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