tkrispin
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what up people. I tried to find a ham radio thread on the 4wheeling forum, but it looks like it was deleted for some reason.
Anyway, I had a few questions, where do people go for good ham radio resources? And can you use a ham radio as a scanner also? I'm interested in buying a ham radio for deep woods communication, and a scanner b/c I think it would be cool to hear what is going on around my area.
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Kajo
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I have been researching this topic also. Broderick(fourwd1) is the one here that seems to know alot about them. I read that Radio Shack has a good book about ham radio operation.
I know you need to have a license to use a ham radio. I believe it is multile choice and you need to pass with a "D". There are several different operator levels and the lowest one does not require you to know Morse code.
As far as it being used as a scanner. I don't believe a Ham Radio could be used as one.
Broderick if you see this please give some input. [ October 21, 2002, 01:50 PM: Message edited by: Kajo4x4toy ]
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fourwd1
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John, Tom,
All the equipment I own I purchased at hamfests, basically a fleamarket type thing for hams. People sell equipment they no longer need, or to get money to buy new equipment, or just clean out the basement, etc. A lot of computer and non-ham related stuff too. I always now what I want before hand and how much I'm willing to pay, although I've dropped some big bucks on a spur of the moment deal. I've been very satisfied with all the stuff I've purchased that way, and saved a lot of money too. Commercial vendors selling new stuff show up also for those with the big bucks or want the latest and greatest.
And yes, a lot of ham equipment can double as a scanner, but without all the features a scanner has, and with some a scanner doesn't have.
As for the ham license, the No-Code Technician Class is a good starting point. I think it was 100 or so multiple guess questions. There are books that have all the Q + A from the current question pool you can use to study from. I have some but they a little out of date. They change (reword) the questions every few years, but the subject matter basically stays the same.
I'll answer any questions I can, scanner or ham related. Also, when it comes to scanners, what you want to listen to and where you live affect the type of scanner you need. Too often I've seen Radio Shack people try to sell people scanners that would be useles to them.
Broderick [ October 21, 2002, 04:05 PM: Message edited by: fourwd1 ]
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tkrispin
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John, Broderick - thanks for all the info. I'm just "info gathering" at this point, so I'll be asking more questions down the road.
Broderick, I'll probably just send you an email when I come up with some good questions. Do the Hamfests come around our area on a regular basis?
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fourwd1
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quote: Originally posted by tkrispin: Broderick, I'll probably just send you an email when I come up with some good questions. Do the Hamfests come around our area on a regular basis?
Fine. Yes, they're sponsered by local clubs, and there is (or maybe was) one this month. I got the info at home.
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Dandeman
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Ham radios make very good scanners if you get one with the right features.. The Standard C5900 shown below is unfortunately out of production, but Yaesu who bought out Standard, has come out with a new one the FT8900 that has all the key features of the 5900 plus some.. I paid close to $700.00 for the Standard and the new FT8900 has come down a lot to about $450.00. There's lot of other radios that have the right features, but it would be good to know what to look for. Most can be remote mounted as what you see below is just the control head, with the rest of the radio below the passenger seat.

Now for the features you need.. All ham radio these days have lots of channel memory for example the 8900 will store up to 800 different channels, and most have multiple types of scan options..for example scan a bank of 10 channels, scan a range of channels, scan range of frequencies, and many more.. By the way the above radio starts receiver coverage at 40mhz and goes up to about 1019Mhz with exception of cellular and two other small gaps in coverage.
One great feature of the 5900 shown above and also carried onto the 8900 is what's called hyper memory.. That's the eight buttons 0 - 7 around the ends of the display as shown above. What these allow you to do is set up a customized scans in both the left and right channels and save that scan to a hyper memory button.. left and right scans are two totally separate scan rings running in parallel, as this radio has two separate receivers and two separate transmitters, that can be active at the same time (with certain limitations)..
For example I use buttons 1 -3 below for ham frequencies, 4 is a crosslinking setup, (ham class will teach you what this is).. aviation frequencies in 5 (tower, ground control in left side), (departure, approach,enroute frequencies on the right side) local law enforcement in 6 right side, highway patrol in 6 left side, and 7 is for on the road frequencies (a combination of ham, law enforcement, etc).
It is handy to have all this set up ahead of time. For example, when 9/11 happened I went out to the vehicle at work and listened to the aviation frequencies as they were working to get everything out of the air quickly.. Public safety frequencies are also handy in this regard..
One key point about having this capability in your vehicle. Some states outlaw having scanners in vehicles, but must exempt licensed operation of amateur radio equipment (which can have scanner capability). No state or local jurisdiction can pass laws regarding use of amateur radio equipment, as federal law which does regulate its use, specificly pre-empts states or local jurisdiction rights to pass such laws. This one example of why the license requirements and getting your license is so important so you know this stuff..
States actually encourage hams to have mobile equipment for emergency operation for example, as a condition (not to mention having my ham license, which they verified in the FCC records database) for getting a state license plate with my ham call, I had to sign a statement that the vehicle has the above equipment.
This quite long, but felt important that you know about some of the features, and the legal considersations of scanner in a vehicle.. You might want to check your particular states laws if you don't go the ham radio license route.
Hope this helps.. and good luck.. If you can find a local ham club, I'm sure they be more than happy to help you study and get the license... [ October 21, 2002, 08:12 PM: Message edited by: Dandeman ]
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tkrispin
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Dandeman - Thanks for the info! I will have to re-read your post, but between you and fourwd1 I should be in good shape. That setup you have is awesome by they way, but might be too intense for a ham noob like me. I plan on getting a ham radio, the test doesn't sound that hard as long as you study a bit...
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fourwd1
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Tom, Here's a link to the last hamfest this year in our area (that I'm aware of) on Oct 27. Carroll County Amateur Radio Club The next one, one of the larger ones, is next April.
Broderick
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tkrispin
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Thanks for the link Borderick, I'll be in Ohio/Pa on that day, but maybe I can catch the one in April (maybe by that time I'll have enough $$ to buy some equipment)
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hello tkrispin you can go to qrz.com and find all kind of info and take practice exams also.it is a great hobby. if i can help let me know
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