justice
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Loc: Coastal N Carolina, USA
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Anyone have experience. I'm considering buying a used bass boat soon..haven't made up my mind on brand, type etc...but I'm thinking a larger fiberglass bass boat may or may not be too much for the 91 Montero?? I may decide to keep it after I retire and move back to Cali in the next year or two...weights on used boats are vague or not listed at all. Should I stick with aluminum? Suppose I could use the wifes gen 3 to tow coast to coast later on but would be using the 91 for fishing around here in NC....what say you?
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99 Gen 2.5, fixing, awaiting build
89 SWB- 33's, ARB Front locker, SR rear locker/axle, SR F brakes, winch, WST Offroad Armor all Around, 2.85 Aussie T-case Gears
Sold: (2) 95 SR's, 86 SWB, 90LWB, 91 LWB
-Can Change a timing belt in my sleep..
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fasteddy
Web Wheeler
Reged: 01/30/01
Posts: 12703
Loc: Flat Creek, GA
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tracker aluminum, 2 stroke evinrude/johnson.
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4xmonty
Body Damage is Cool
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Loc: Vallejo Ca
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Justice it shouldnt be a problem we towed an 18' runabout
and two three seat 1100 cc waverunners with our Gen I and
Gen II with no issues   
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Happy trails to you
(1)98 Montero SR RB Rock Crawlers BFG 33s Rancho 9000's OME Med coils rear
(2)95 4Runner All Pro Nerf bars BFG 32s
ARB bull bar
Downey 2" rear coils Downey headers
(3) 90 Montero LWB 3.0 auto
(4) 98 Kawi GPZ1100
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Grasscat
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Loc: Livermore, Ca
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Justice,
that 91 has pulled allot of boat during it's stay with me, I worked at a boat yard. It also pulled a 14' McKee craft (Boston whaler type) to Vancouver Island (1200 miles not including two ferrys). So you should have no problems locally, but to be on the safe side use the Gen 3 for cross country travel as it has more of everything.
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Michael j
TreadLightly! Trainer
Grasscat III, 1994 Gen 2 Five speed, Stock ( for a little while )
GrassCat II, 1998 Gen 2.5 Locked and loaded. Ran off with Hector.
GrassCat I, 1991 Gen 1 Ran off with Justice.
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FrankR
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Think 3500lbs (boat, motor and trailer). A Gen1 can tow more, but not comfortably. A rule of thumb is 7% of the total load should be on the tongue for best handling - too much, it'll push you all over the lane and too little, it'll snatch the truck around. You can stretch this to 10% tongue weight - which would be about 300-350lbs on the hitch. That too is about all the truck can handle comfortably..... the rear springs really won't take much more, particularly after you load gear in the truck.
I've towed 5,500lbs or so behind the G-Raider for several hundred miles, but I was into boost (and 2nd gear) a lot and I would have hated to try it without the blower.
Frank
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justice
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tracker aluminum, 2 stroke evinrude/johnson.
Please elaborate..Still ignorant when it comes to boats reading a lot but all I know at this point is that I want one primarily to bass fish lakes, resevoirs and occasionally rivers, needs live well and the like...Also when I return to Kali boat has to pas inspection from the Eco Nazi's to get into the good resovoirs..that means 4 stroke or 2 stroke with "oil injection" whatever that means...
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99 Gen 2.5, fixing, awaiting build
89 SWB- 33's, ARB Front locker, SR rear locker/axle, SR F brakes, winch, WST Offroad Armor all Around, 2.85 Aussie T-case Gears
Sold: (2) 95 SR's, 86 SWB, 90LWB, 91 LWB
-Can Change a timing belt in my sleep..
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METALMOVER
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Reged: 11/30/11
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Loc: NE
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The way I'm reading the previous posts is buy a craft that is less than 3000 lbs cause about the max you want to tow is 3500lbs, most fiberglass boats under 16 ft are going to be way under that, and lighter if there aluminum. As far as the motors go most fishing boats will be outboard 2 cycles, thats where the motor sticks up out of the back of the boat, oil injection is where you have a reservoir of oil that mixes with the fuel as it runs, verses mixing the oil in the gas and then running it. Good luck and I hoped that helped. METALMOVER
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fasteddy
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Our 18' Cobalt bowrider is a very heavy beast, and the boat alone is 2900lbs dry/empty, just hull and engine. An aluminum bass boat like a Tracker is quite light. Add 800lbs approx for a steel trailer, and a two stroke oil injected 100-150hp outboard, a trolling motor, and two batteries, and you should be under 3000lbs easy. You won't win any drag races, but it should tow fine behind a 3.0. I short distance towed our old 19' Cobalt (the current one is an 18 footer) behind a gen1 3.0.
A two stroke motor is ligher per hp than a 4 stroke. It won't get as good gas mileage, but they run forever with proper maintenance. If you fish salt or brackish water, you MUST flush the cooling system after each use, and use sacrificial anodes (on the motor and the aluminum hull) to avoid galvanic corrosion. We use an anode trim tab on the motor, and screw-on plates on the hulls in the Gulf...
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justice
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OK, will be picking up my boat today...I'm having second thoughts on selling my 89..I'll have to see which rig out of the two tows the boat better...18 ft Ranger 363V with a 150 Evinrude 2 stroke..
I'm thinking a long wheel base would be more stable, but also thinking that the 89 is (power to weight ratio) lighter and has less rear overhang to tax the rear coils...Both rigs have Gen 2 rear coils..to go along with the big rear ends with rear disc brakes, but the 89 has way less rear overhang...Decisions Decisions  Any thoughts on long verses short for towing?
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99 Gen 2.5, fixing, awaiting build
89 SWB- 33's, ARB Front locker, SR rear locker/axle, SR F brakes, winch, WST Offroad Armor all Around, 2.85 Aussie T-case Gears
Sold: (2) 95 SR's, 86 SWB, 90LWB, 91 LWB
-Can Change a timing belt in my sleep..
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PHIL
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Reged: 01/09/00
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Loc: Airdrie, Alberta
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Sounds like fun, Justice! You'll have to post a pic of your rig, all loaded up for fishin!
I found the shorty was a little choppy in the wind but otherwise towed very well. I also found that braking was a little better with the LWB, even though it was heavier. It seemed to stay more in a straight line... I'm talking about sudden stops, of which I've only had to make a few with trailer behind me, thank God! Normal stop and go was pretty much the same, SWB/LWB.
I would recommend airbags in the coils though, whichever way you go. Being able to level the rig after you drop weight on the tongue really helped with stability, for me anyway.
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justice
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Went a picked up with the LWB, just drove a few blocks, so no verdict on the towing yet, I can definately tell its there though...Maybe go to the car wash to spray everything out now that I've vacuumed all the pine needles out..More pics on this project later...
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99 Gen 2.5, fixing, awaiting build
89 SWB- 33's, ARB Front locker, SR rear locker/axle, SR F brakes, winch, WST Offroad Armor all Around, 2.85 Aussie T-case Gears
Sold: (2) 95 SR's, 86 SWB, 90LWB, 91 LWB
-Can Change a timing belt in my sleep..
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Grasscat
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Nice
You are enjoying the first of the greatest two days of owning a boat. Have fun brother you deserve it.
From the looks of that beautiful green background that's not California. 
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Michael j
TreadLightly! Trainer
Grasscat III, 1994 Gen 2 Five speed, Stock ( for a little while )
GrassCat II, 1998 Gen 2.5 Locked and loaded. Ran off with Hector.
GrassCat I, 1991 Gen 1 Ran off with Justice.
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RaiderMonteroFL
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Reged: 06/19/10
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Loc: FL
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That looks like a 89 to 91 model Evinrude XP 150. If the Motor Cover is the original. That XP model was the top end motor of the time. Supposedly had more HP than the regular 150 model. It cost quite a bit more than the regular 150 as well. Never saw one of those except in the show room. OMC made some pretty good outboard motors back then. If it was not abused you should get a few more hours out of it. Good luck with it.
As far as towing the bigger the towing vehicle the better is the general rule. Stops better handles better etc.
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justice
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It's an 89 363V Bassmasters Classic edition. Looks like That was the motor it came with, has a decal on the side something to the effect of official outboard of the 89 bassmaster classic. Pretty neat boat. Suppossedly each of these rigs were actually used in the event in 1989 by pro bass fishermen. Top of the line rig for its day...Cleaning up nice so far. The batteries for the trolling motor were disconnected, so got those on the charger hopefully they will hold a charge. Need to get that squared away, I want to be sure I got back up if I get out there and the motor quits..
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99 Gen 2.5, fixing, awaiting build
89 SWB- 33's, ARB Front locker, SR rear locker/axle, SR F brakes, winch, WST Offroad Armor all Around, 2.85 Aussie T-case Gears
Sold: (2) 95 SR's, 86 SWB, 90LWB, 91 LWB
-Can Change a timing belt in my sleep..
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