fasteddy
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Taking apart the donor block (sbc 350) for the Cobalt 18'er a friend and I have partered up on (original engine with only 300hrs got frozen - cracked the block top and bottom on both sides and busted a 3"x4" diamond out of the lifter valley on one side, cracked the other).
We picked up a complete 79 unbuilt block and I was taking it apart. One head I had to use a slide hammer to get the pushrods out. Looked like a Quaker State motor, jam full of black fudge. Had to use the slide hammer type lifter remover to get the lifters out.
One head came off easy. The other one would NOT turn loose. I was whanging it with a 4lb brass hammmer with a pry on one end when it jumped loose and fell right on by left big toe. The Red Wing boots may have saved me a break, but it's black and blue and even more ugly than usual and I can neither stand on it to kick my butt, nor kick my butt with it...
I hate being stupid. I hate it even worse that I'm slowing down enough not to be able to get my toe out of the way. Y'all be careful out there...
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I hate it even worse that I'm slowing down enough not to be able to get my toe out of the way.
Shoot, that you're even able to still play whack-a-mole with a 4lb hammer is nuthin' to sneeze at.
My first experience with Quaker State was while helping with a rebuild- there was about 3/8" layer of paraffin to chip out of the bottom of the oil pan for the 318 we were preppin' for a '73 Challenger. 
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fasteddy
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I use a 12lb for breaking concrete. The 4lb is a one hand hammer. I frame with a 28oz Kali framer. I hate to have to hit 16d's more than twice. There is nothing you can't fix with the right size hammer...
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off-roader
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...There is nothing you can't fix with the right size hammer...
Broken glass... 
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fasteddy
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I beg to differ. If you hit it REAL hard, you will create enough heat to remelt the glass (the man who taught me the hammer rule tgot me on that one too...).
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off-roader
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I beg to differ. If you hit it REAL hard, you will create enough heat to remelt the glass (the man who taught me the hammer rule tgot me on that one too...).
Well maybe great minds think alike? Is it possible to hit the glass that hard without destroying the hammer?
Anyway how 'bout fixing a break in your skin.
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fasteddy
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No, the hammer will vaporize too. The velocities required are around 7 miles per second, if I did the math right.
Rub real fast and the skin break will cauterize. 
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off-roader
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Rub real fast and the skin break will cauterize.
Good luck with that. If it does get hot enough to cauterize the skin then you'll end up with a burn instead. Oh hey can a hammer fix burnt skin?
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Rub real fast and the skin break will cauterize.
Good luck with that. If it does get hot enough to cauterize the skin then you'll end up with a burn instead. Oh hey can a hammer fix burnt skin?
Uh, hope your toe is better...
without "rubbing" or using a hammer to fix it...
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hazy_daze
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Sucks about your toe, but without pics, it didn't happen. Glad you found a block. I couldn't find a virgin fer nuthin...
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fasteddy
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The engine had one cracked head, but the guy we got it from had another matching casting on the shelf. They are late 70's heads, and kinda thin, but usable. Better than the mid 80's head that was on the original. We cut the heads .020 to raise the compression so we could use thicker MLS head gaskets instead of the SLS that was on the original. Put a 258 cam on it with a 2* advance ground into it. Wish we could have afforded vortex heads and mani - good for 20-30hp by themselves. Should be a 60mph boat anyway, if I've got it figgered right.
Spent the day putting in the cam and crank and putting rings on pistons and pressing the rod pins in. Slugs go in tomorrow. Ready to cut some waves in the deep vee.
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heathdogg
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Dropped a 1 ton brake rotor on my big toe once. Didn't break just changed color like your's did. Did wind up losing the nail on it after a couple of weeks. Went to trim it and it came off in my hand. It grew back, just not quite the same though. That was 8 years ago or so. I get a ingrown nail on it every so often if I don't keep on it.
Something to look foward to.
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fasteddy
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Some time before my wife to be and I married, we had taken out her father's boat, and I was unhooking it from the car so her mother could go buy groceries (MMMM, Mama June could cook). Cathie was jawboning at me to get it off just as I armstronged it off the ball, and I set it down on my bare middle toe with some vigor. I was sitting on the ground trying to hold in the blood, and there went Cathie, her mother, and her father, all boogeying into the house. None of them could stand the sight of blood. Her mother came back out with her face averted with bandages, and I sat in the driveway and wrapped it up. That toenail now looks like the cratered moon - it grows up, not out. Same foot the head hit, too. The toe is getting yellow now, and I can now kick my butt...
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hazy_daze
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I dropped a 3/4 ton rotor on my left big toe. While it was still attached to the Dodge truck I was working on. Hurt like mofo. Jack failed and hung me under the rotor for about 10 minutes before I could get somebody's attention to come help me. Lost the nail and cracked the toe bone. Hope yours feels better soon...
Going to Betty's creek and Patterson Gap today, BTW... Might try to find that trail you told me bout. Was going to do the rock garden on the way to the walking trailhead up to Rabun Bald, but 246 is blocked right off 441. Not sure if I want to go around and run Hale Ridge backwards to get to it...
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fasteddy
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Sorry I didn't see this quicker. THere's a way around that blockage - Go back to Rabun gap PO and go east to the road along the east side of the valley, which comes out on 246 at the RV campground.
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MarkG
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Kelley Creek (Rabun Gap Post Office) is the official detour. You can also go into Dillard and turn into the Piggly Wiggly shopping center. Then take the dirt road to the right of the shopping center. Stay to the right to go around the field. This is a more "scenic" route than Kelley Creek.
We just had a few nights of freezing temps. That hurt a lot of the non-native plants that weren't expecting cold. Most of the native plants still leafing out. Watch out for bad weather today. It's dark and overcast today.
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hazy_daze
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The lady at the Holiday Inn told me about both ways. I wound up running Patterson Gap then to the Tallulah River crossing and then back to town. Then went out Warwoman to find the trail Eddie told me about a couple weeks ago. What I found was Earl's Ford. And, damn was it fun.... Only carnage is a driver's inner joint that won't stay sunk home. And about 50 gallons of water/dope pissin everywhere... Oh, and Lisa didn't speak to me until we got to Commerce. I guess the second river fording where I almost sunk the truck kinda ticked her off...
I want to go back with somebody else at some point because that trail was a hoot!!!
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fasteddy
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You should have seen the astrovan climbing out from the actual riverside...
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MarkG
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[OffTopic]Earls ford would have been up. We have had some good rain the past two weeks. Did you ford above or below the rock?
Are you going for the "Captain Nemo" title?
The Bald was exciting around 10 am. We got hammered by another round of thunderstorms. A lightening strike hit a propane line and started a structure fire on the road below Kelsey Mountain road. This was the second structure fire we have had in two weeks with the same cause. [/OffTopic]
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hazy_daze
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Below if you mean downstream of the double humped outcropping in the second crossing coming from Warwoman. I just misjudged the line and hit it square instead of angled. I had plenty of forward momentum and wasn't taking on water. It dropped into a washed out part that I couldn't tell was there and my winch cradle hit the bottom of the other side and dug in. Forward motion stopped. Never took my foot off the gas and slapped it in reverse and hammered it back. It swung the front end around about 160* or so and made one helluva wave. Wish I'd had Lisa on the bank taking video. I'm sure she does too...
Might've been a more talkative ride home...
How's the boat motor coming along????
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fasteddy
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Well, I just did a super job of sealing the intake down, and looked over and saw the lifter box, unopened...
Otherwise, it's about ready to hoist in. Pan and oil pump and fuel pump and timing cover on. Need to put the flywheel and outdrive input shaft adapter and bellhousing on there, and it's ready to lift in and start hooking up all the misc. crap. Turns over really slick. I like that Comp Cams break in goo, and the Milodon assembly lube real well. I put the rings on the pistons without ring pliers for the first time in 30 years, and had forgotten how nerve wracking that was to do. Oil rings and top rings are easy, but you need 3 hands for the second ring - keeps wanting to jump into the top groove on the way down, and keeping the sharp ring end corners from scratching the piston is tough on the thumb skin. Used one of those nifty funnel type ring compressors instead of the tighten up kind, and it was a breeze.
Only real hard part to date has been the dipstick. The marine (cracked in 8 places) block has a pside dipstick with the entry hole in a milled recess about 2" above the pan rail. The 3970010 relacement block has a dside dipstick that starts at the deck surface, and the old dipstick won't go in far enough. Got to find a universal that's long enough to get above the hirise marine exhaust mani's. The Lokar's aren't long enough, and at 56bucks, too expensive. Thought about looking for a van dipstick for a 350, but haven't found measurment specs on one.
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hazy_daze
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Got a friend that maintains a bunch of GM vans. I'll ask him to measure one and get back to you.
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hazy_daze
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Well all his vans have 4.3's. Might be the same, dunno.
Somebody forwarded this video to me and I thought of you. The commentary is NSFW but the soundtrack is cute... This guy's an idiot...
YouTube link
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This guy's an idiot
I think you are giving him more credit that he deserves.
It is evident he crawled out of the shallow end of the gene pool...
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dadrab
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It is evident he crawled out of the shallow end of the gene pool...
Not sure he even crawled out of the "pool." Stupidity like that comes from the gene mud puddle.
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fasteddy
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She's in the boat. It took a double lift to get it in. I have the folding engine crane, so the lift is a tad short, and the hole in the boat is deep down. We had to hook a real short chain to get it over the transom, and used a double layer of 3/4" plywood on concrete blocks for a temporary landing pad, about 28" above the engine mount pads, then rerigged with a comealong on the crane chain, and set her down and aligned it with the outdrive. Finished dressing the front today (alt., w/p, p/s pump, p/s cooler, water filter for the fuel, 60a breaker), installed the dizzy, starter, and started draping the controls and wiring harness back over the motor. All that's left is the exh mani's and risers, hooking up controls and wiring, plugs, and set the timing and idle mixture. Rebuilt the quadrabog carb while it was at the machine shop. Goal is water by Mem. Day.
Trying to figure out how to seat the rings without wheels. I use the rev to 5000, then coast down, and repeat method on wheels. Anybody got a clue on boats? Using straight 30w non detergent for the breakin, with Crane Cam break in additive. The new cam and lifters and pushrods and rockers all have so much assembly lube they looked iced like a cupcake. All the rotating parts had the red goo liquid assembly lube, and we'll crank it without spark until we see oil pressure on the gauge.
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FrankR
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I've tried two break-in methods.
One involves cranking the engine, immediately in-gear for load at 1500rpm until fully warm, then 3000rpm for a couple of minutes to make sure all is good, then WOT for a few runs. Although the one engine (351 Ford) I broke in like that was a great engine, I wouldn't recommend the method.
The traditional method covers about 20 hours:
After cranking, don't idle long - get in-gear and stay above 1500rpm. Vary rpm frequently, staying below 3/4 throttle, but above 1500rpm during the first 10 hours. After 10 hours, WOT only after the engine is fully warm - then short bursts of WOT and back to cruise throttle.
Good luck.
Frank
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fasteddy
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Fired her off, finally. New fuel pump (old made good pressure, but no suction), rebuilt alternator (you could watch the volts drop on a fully charged battery from 13.5 to 11 in 3 minutes, and the alt short load was so high it would not turn the motor over). The cam is not tolerant of a boat type idle speed. If you idle it below 850, it will do it, but dies after any opening of the throttle. Now at 13*btdc for idle advance (36* at 3600), and 3 full turns out on the idle mixture screws, but man, does it jump to 4000 quick when you snap the throttle open. Very interesting idle, too. Much more radical than I expected for a 286 cam with a ground in advance. This is goind to interesting when we get it in the water. I think we are pulling about 300hp if I did the math right. Looking for 60mph at 4600rpms with a 21 pitch prop. Spent today doing the last tweaking on the timing and idle mixture, and reinstalled all the teak wood that we had sanded out and reoiled (took 4 coats before it quit soaking up the teak oil like a drunk with a new bottle of Mad Dog 2020), and did some vinyl cleaning.
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sasnydley
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boat pics?
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fasteddy
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the camera with the pictures has a broken screen, so I can't get to the menu to download pics.
Here's the brochure for the 84 models - 18DV
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