pachovilla
Need a Spot
Reged: 10/05/10
Posts: 5
Loc: México City
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First, the introduccion. I´m the new owner of a funny 88 Raider and also, it´s my first post in 4X4wire, so please be kind 
I´m not very skilled with english and realized I´m getting rusty, so sorry if my spelling is bad. By the way, PFAQ is Pacho´s Freequently Asked Questions (I know it´s stupid, but some fun might help me get through this  ))
In Mexico we don´t have much options and since I´m a big Montero-Pajero-Shogun-Raider fan, had to grab what was at range.
The things I know:
-The Combo (2.6 lts + Auto Trany) sucks...
-I can get 4" up easily, -I´m talking about the Raider- 2" on Body Lift, and 2" on Susp Lift.
-I can fit 33´s with this config.
-My trany is in bad shape -it slips like a M/T with bad clutch- in 2nd gear, shifting is decent but far from good.
The Firsts PFAQ´s:
-Acording to the Owner Manual, the A/T is the same for the 2.6 and the 3.0. My ancient knowledge in guessing things I don´t realy have Idea tells me this is not true, but would be nice if I´m wrong. Any guide on this?
-By any chances, could I save this trany, and is it worthy?? It seems like is hard to find some parts.
I´ve tons of PFAQ´s, but will begin with this to keep it simple.
Thanks on advanced and hope to get some real light here.
PS. I promise that I went through New Members, Mitsubishi Tech and Search Machine
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Mudraider
Body Damage is Cool
Reged: 12/16/07
Posts: 1354
Loc: Orange Park, FL
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Ola. There is someone going thru the same thing right now, look for that thread. Also I have 35"s on mine with the 2,6 and A/T, and knock on wood it has performed well with no problems. Another thing, when I got it, the OD was not working, and the kid I got it from was commuting 35 miles each way to work, with stock tires. One of the reasons I got it for $300 bucks.So I am impressed with the transmission, it seems to work pretty well. I know from working with Chevy"s and the 700R4 AT, that if the cable is not adjusted properly it won't work worth a crap. Have you checked the FSM for the A/T cable adjustment on the carburettor? Start there, if someone has messed with it it will cause all kinds of weird shifting problems. Keep us up on what you do, we'll be glad to help.
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fasteddy
Web Wheeler
Reged: 01/30/01
Posts: 12707
Loc: Flat Creek, GA
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3.0 v6 transmission will fit if you change the bellhousing, a bolt on job.
You can double the horsepower with a turbo engine swap, look in the tech threads at the top of this forum for the details. There's a days worth of reading there.
Bienvenido, and pardon my horrible Espanol...
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pachovilla
Need a Spot
Reged: 10/05/10
Posts: 5
Loc: México City
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I´m just coming back from my good old trusty friend the mechanic (here in México you must be precautious with lawyers and mechanics). He´s an emminence in Land Rovers, but no experience with Mitsu at all, gave him the Service Manual and the Pats Catalog so, hopefully, he will do things right.
The Transmission went down for a mayor maintenance: Gears Check up, New Seals and Bearings and everithing else needed.
He told me that the trany was virgin -guess that´s good news- so now´s the time for a full overhaul. The only problem is money, but for what I´ve been reading it´ll be good invested.
About the Turbo convertion, there are some kits for the engine at ebay, but I´m still not quite shure cause it might be like putting weight on the weak link of the truck. First will come a nice and clean maintenance and after we will see.
Before this ride I was the happy owner of a Landy Series I, so the off road capabilities of the Raider will have to fight for his place among warriors at the Valhalla, somehow I know he, the mighty Raider, will find his path. 
I will get some pics and a lot of PFAQ´s 
This is the guy in in question... for now
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fasteddy
Web Wheeler
Reged: 01/30/01
Posts: 12707
Loc: Flat Creek, GA
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Forget the ebay kits. Junk.
You want to swap in the stuff from an 88-89 starion/conquest. There are no weak links that will fail with that setup, unless you have a manual 5spd transmission. The automatic transmission is very strong.
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pachovilla
Need a Spot
Reged: 10/05/10
Posts: 5
Loc: México City
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Updating the post....
The transmission is almost done. It´ll stay cause as you said it´s a good strong one. With the overhaul I´m guessing it will last for years of fun
But now I have a new challenge...
I have a 2.4 2007 Outlander engine waiting on. It´s almost free from a crashed Mitsu, with all sistems needed to work, and I´m having a strong feeling that it might fit in.
It has 170 hp´s, it´s fuel Injected, better mpg, and almost new, these are the "Yes, please" arguments.
On the other hand, there are some Issues that makes me feel like I´m dreaming wrong -or just waisting my limited stock of ideas-.
The first thing is a matter of fitting:
-Will it fit?
The Outlander engine is a bit smaller and lighter or at least this is wath the logic of 22 years of enginering progress and millions of dollars in research in the field -I´m talking about Mitsubishi, not me-
The mayor issue is the engine alingment. The Raider engine is longitudinal, and the outlander engine is transverse.
To assume that everithing will fit -radiator, computer, pumps, etc, is a big mistake, so I´ll try to analize -hopefully with your help- and see if it works.
Finally, the mounting. I don´t think the engine-chassis mounting would be a problem, but the alingment between the engine and the transmition will be. It´s not easy to find a workshop capable of doing this kind of work in México. But I´ll try to find one...
The new challenge will be from this point
Tanks 
To this point
So, now I´m going to need more help to find answers to PFAQs...
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hazy_daze
Roll Me Over
Reged: 05/22/07
Posts: 4609
Loc: Athens, Georgia
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Anything fits with a welder and a sawzall. Do it.
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fasteddy
Web Wheeler
Reged: 01/30/01
Posts: 12707
Loc: Flat Creek, GA
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I like this idea. There were rear wheel drive 2.4 4g64 motors in several mitsu's, like the pickup truck, and the old van (I think?), and you can mix and match parts from the dohc 4g63 turbo motor, and get hp numbers that make 170hp look like a lawnmower motor. The rwd blocks match the tranny you just rebuilt, too. I do not know if the fwd blocks have the same bellhousing bolt pattern.
This is a popular swap into the talon/eclipse with the fwd motor, and into the starion/conquest with the rwd blocks.
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Mudraider
Body Damage is Cool
Reged: 12/16/07
Posts: 1354
Loc: Orange Park, FL
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So where would you find info on doing this type of conversion? Things like the engine mounting points, trans compatability, oil pan clearance, Is this the same moor Toasty is fighting? I don't mean that it in a bad way, it is just his is the only one I have seen and so he is the guinea pig figuring out all the problems.
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pachovilla
Need a Spot
Reged: 10/05/10
Posts: 5
Loc: México City
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Quote:
Anything fits with a welder and a sawzall. Do it.
That is a good philosophy, the only thing missing would be a couple of skilled hands... wich yet are missing.
This past weekend I went with my friend "The Mechanic", we were analizing this SWAP, and even when he is not a Mod Specialist, he has been working with Land Rovers, Unimogs, and other trucks for some years.
His mayor concern is the engine mountings. Since Outlander engine is made to fit paralel, supporting points are located in the front and in the back of the engine or better said, in the tranny -if you see the enginne within the hood, the points are left and right of the engine-
In the Montero, if I intend to keep the 4 spd tranny -cause I really want the transfer case to stay, just because I like to go out on 4x4- The engine must rotate so mounting points would be still in front and rear, that is the radiator (wich, by the way, I don´t thing will hold on  ), and the Tranny which might stay in place and hold.
But most important, the weight and mass would do his work if the alignment isn´t right, and good vibratios will be there for shure, and I´m not talking about the Beach Boys kinda good vibrations.
So, at the end, it´s all about number and possibilities right?? In a simple equation, if:
reliability of the SWAP-(1-viability or the SWAP)-price of the SWAP > reliability of the rebuilding-price of rebuiding the 2.4 engine-price of installing a Starion Turbo
Or something like that... Then I´ll do the SWAP.
Edited by pachovilla (10/19/10 11:35 AM)
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hazy_daze
Roll Me Over
Reged: 05/22/07
Posts: 4609
Loc: Athens, Georgia
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Quote:
That is a good philosophy, the only thing missing would be a couple of skilled hands... wich yet are missing.
Did you have an accident...
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pachovilla
Need a Spot
Reged: 10/05/10
Posts: 5
Loc: México City
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Quote:
Quote:
That is a good philosophy, the only thing missing would be a couple of skilled hands... wich yet are missing.
Did you have an accident...
Jeje... nop, but I don´t even know if MIG is an Ex USSR Jet or a Welding something, and good welders in México are limited.
Anyway, thanks for the encouragement
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