SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Reged: 05/09/08
Posts: 97
Loc: Tucker GA
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I am currently swapping a 3.5L out of a '95 SR into my '89 Gen 1. I'm not too terribly far into the process, but I'm feeling good about how things are going, and thought it was about time to start documenting it. Overall, it's been fairly straightforward...there are some fitment issues, but I consider them minor. I haven't yet run into any "show-stoppers".
The only firewall clearance issue I've run into so far is just to the left of the brake booster (facing it). The doubler for the steering column needs to be trimmed a bit, and the firewall needs to be hammered back...though, there is nothing behind it, so it is a pretty easy task. It's pretty ugly, but I figured I'd make sure everything fit before I made it pretty...even though it will be impossible to see.
The next clearance issue is with the oil pan. It hits the front axle, and the axle-crossmember mount. For now I have just cut out the interfering sections, and will weld in patches later. This too was easy, neither location interfered with the oil pickup. At the moment this picture only shows the first cut, but I will get an updated pic posted.
Neither the Gen 1 or Gen 2 engine mounts will work, so I'm currently working on making a hybrid of the two. I've cut the Gen 2 mounts and am just using the plate that mounts to the engine, and I'm using all of the Gen 1 mounts EXCEPT the plate that mounts to the engine. I haven't finished this yet, but the test fit looks good, and I just need to weld them together.
I don't have any pictures of the exhaust yet, but I've test fit the 3.5L Y-pipe and it appears that it'll work with no, or minimal modification. It seems to line up with the stock catalytic converter location and may or may not need to be shortened.
I've only done a minimal amount of work to the wiring so far. I pulled every last bit of wire out of the 95 donor, but I'm not sure how, or if, I'll use it all. At the moment all I've done is eliminate the ABS and Airbag wiring. There's some decisions to be made regarding how I'm going to go about the wiring, but really it's what I consider "the easy part"...getting the engine to physically fit seemed to be a far bigger problem.
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1989 Mitsubishi Montero SWB 0.0L (3.5L soon?) Auto, Front LSD, Rear SR Locker, Aisin hubs, Safari Snorkel, ARB Front Bumper, Warn M8000, Bushwacker Flares
1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
...and a few others less interesting.
Edited by SRTNate (04/29/10 12:44 AM)
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justice
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Awesome! I've been hoping someone would do this swap! 
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99 Gen 2.5, fixing, awaiting build
89 SWB- 33's, ARB Front locker, SR rear locker/axle, SR F brakes, winch, WST Offroad Armor all Around, 2.85 Aussie T-case Gears
Sold: (2) 95 SR's, 86 SWB, 90LWB, 91 LWB
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Angrybooger2
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Loc: Nipomo,Ca
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Really awesome!
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32"X11.5" A/T tires
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MontyMcV
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That's going to be one cool(er) ride when you're done!
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Big Truck 1: 95, MT, >Gone<
Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top
Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 29k miles!
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JAVYPRO
Body Damage is Cool
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Loc: Buford, GA USA
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Coincidence. We are going on vacations to Puerto Rico for the whole month of June and since car rental prices are insane, ($4,000 for Jeep and $800+ for a little sardines can), I was talking to my brother about finding an SUV and he told me about this guy that sold his GEN I LWB with a 3.5 transplant for just $1,900.
I was a day too late. 
Great project.
Javy
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fasteddy
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Loc: Flat Creek, GA
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Will the 3.0 pan fit the 3.5? I didn't think they changed the blocks that much. I knew the 3.5 was 19mm taller in deck height.
Are you going to use the 95 or gen1 tranny?
I saw the 95 hull for sale on CL with the shogun in the edge of the pic...
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Reged: 05/09/08
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Loc: Tucker GA
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Will the 3.0 pan fit the 3.5?
I'm not entirely sure...
I was eyeballing it, and it looks like the bolt pattern is the same. When I take the pan off all the way, I'll double check. But, the Gen 2 pan looks nice and stout, with a nice solid gasket surface. Also it looks as if the Gen 2 pan is meant to be the lower support to the engine regarding how it mounts to the transmission...basically eliminating the two Gen1 engine-to-trans brackets. I won't miss them. Plus the 2-piece oil pan makes it easy to clean the sump if one so desired.
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Are you going to use the 95 or gen1 tranny?
That's probably going to be a "phase 2" of the project. To help keep my options open, I did this...
So I could save this..
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The transmission/transfer case out of the Gen 2 is quite a bit longer than the Gen 1. I measured, but forgot, but I'll measure again.
The Gen 1 SWB rear driveshaft is so short already, that I think I'd have to fashion a slip yoke eliminator and get a telescoping driveshaft to be able to use the Gen 2 Trans.
The whole "transmission question" also contributes to the "wiring question". I want to find a good way to do the wiring so I don't have to do a bunch of chopping and grafting now, only to undo it later to return it to it's original state.
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1989 Mitsubishi Montero SWB 0.0L (3.5L soon?) Auto, Front LSD, Rear SR Locker, Aisin hubs, Safari Snorkel, ARB Front Bumper, Warn M8000, Bushwacker Flares
1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
...and a few others less interesting.
Edited by SRTNate (04/29/10 10:35 PM)
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KB2IAW
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Thats quite an undertaking ...looks good so far , btw did you get the money order for the parts ??? should have arrived by now .
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willwinchforfood
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Reged: 09/15/08
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Loc: Tucker, Ga
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Why is this taking you so long? More Monster less sleep.
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Loc: Tucker GA
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Why is this taking you so long? More Monster less sleep.
All Monster Energy Drink donations are welcome.
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1989 Mitsubishi Montero SWB 0.0L (3.5L soon?) Auto, Front LSD, Rear SR Locker, Aisin hubs, Safari Snorkel, ARB Front Bumper, Warn M8000, Bushwacker Flares
1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
...and a few others less interesting.
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StockRaider
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Reged: 09/23/04
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Loc: Williamsport PA
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I am very interested in your progress... I think since my Raider doesn't have its original engine I will go 3.5 when rebuild time comes.
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1989 Montero - SR coils, SR steering box, 31" Wide track Baja
1989 V6 Auto Raider - SR Rear, LSD Front, Superwinch Hubs, 33" BFG Mud terrain KM2
1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6turbo Start of my tuner addiction
1983 Honda XL600R - Supertrapp muffler, EBC Brakes, K270tires
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Reged: 05/09/08
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Loc: Tucker GA
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The engine mounts are about ready to be welded, I just wanted to quadruple check how things are lined up when I'm a bit less tired. Now that the engine is held rigidly side-to-side, it gives me a much better view of how things are shaping up...and the situation looks good.
I may have made the second cut to the oil pan a bit prematurely, but the engine may not be in it's final vertical position. And I know I need to allow for some sag from the rubber in the mounts once they're supporting the full weight of the engine.
To elaborate on some earlier transmission questions:
The G1 transmission/tcase, from bellhousing to output cup, is about 43-44 inches. (it was awkward to measure while in the truck)
The G2 Transmissionfercase, measured the same way, is 50 inches.
With the G1 setup, the distance from the output cup to the pinion is 23 inches. So, I assume with the G2 setup it would be about 16 inches, and at a much steeper angle.
Edited by SRTNate (04/29/10 10:41 PM)
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fasteddy
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I knew we were gonna have some fun when Nate got going good...
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rxinhed
The Mitsubishi Parts Guy
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And...what will the power output of the 3.5L be?
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hazy_daze
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Nate, give me a call if you need anything that I can provide thru my parts channels. I can also come wrench if that'd help...
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justice
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Quote:
And...what will the power output of the 3.5L be?
215 HP in stock config.
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99 Gen 2.5, fixing, awaiting build
89 SWB- 33's, ARB Front locker, SR rear locker/axle, SR F brakes, winch, WST Offroad Armor all Around, 2.85 Aussie T-case Gears
Sold: (2) 95 SR's, 86 SWB, 90LWB, 91 LWB
-Can Change a timing belt in my sleep..
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willwinchforfood
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Reged: 09/15/08
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I hear if you put diamante pistons in the 3.5 you can get over 700 hp on pump gas.
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hazy_daze
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I hear if you put diamante pistons in the 3.5 you can get over 700 hp on pump gas.
That's incorrect. On premium, it's 700. It's only 675 on 87...
I used the search function to find that info, BTW.
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Reged: 05/09/08
Posts: 97
Loc: Tucker GA
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I hear if you put diamante pistons in the 3.5 you can get over 700 hp on pump gas.
Interesting...interesting...I'll have to look into that.
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1989 Mitsubishi Montero SWB 0.0L (3.5L soon?) Auto, Front LSD, Rear SR Locker, Aisin hubs, Safari Snorkel, ARB Front Bumper, Warn M8000, Bushwacker Flares
1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
...and a few others less interesting.
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StockRaider
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I think he is referencing me grilling him on the 3.0 Raider on the for sale section where he said it had 200hp with diamante pistons. 
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1989 Montero - SR coils, SR steering box, 31" Wide track Baja
1989 V6 Auto Raider - SR Rear, LSD Front, Superwinch Hubs, 33" BFG Mud terrain KM2
1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6turbo Start of my tuner addiction
1983 Honda XL600R - Supertrapp muffler, EBC Brakes, K270tires
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FrankR
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I think he is referencing me grilling him on the 3.0 Raider on the for sale section where he said it had 200hp with diamante pistons.
Heck, I used a Diamante block, heads and cams and made over 200HP - it was so powerful, I had to use a head spacer to keep it from blowing up.
I like this 3.5L idea.
Frank
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'89 G-Raider Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 155k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, 165A alt., Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
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0778drz110
Body Damage is Cool
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Quote:
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I hear if you put diamante pistons in the 3.5 you can get over 700 hp on pump gas.
That's incorrect. On premium, it's 700. It's only 675 on 87...
I used the search function to find that info, BTW.
With a 3.8 stroker it can reach 1000rwhp, 1300 ft/lbs of tq at 900rpm.
I didn't need to search, I have hands on experience with this. 
3.5 swap is looking good. I'll probably go 4.3 with the blown LWB i have though, So I can tow stuff 
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1997 GMC Yukon SLT 4x4: Vortec 5.7L, 4L60E auto, NP243, bluetooth, nav, 4 12" subs, LEDs, HIDs, 2 7" LCDs
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fasteddy
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Must have used a real type R emblem to get that out of it...
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ryany
Body Damage is Cool
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There's nothing quite like the smell of sarcasm in the evening...
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95 Montero SR 3.5
OME shocks & springs, cranked torsion bars, 2" body lift, 3" gas tank lift, 4.90 gears, Aussie front locker, factory rear locker, Aisin manual hubs, Roger Brown Rock Sliderz, 315/75r16 (35") BFG Mud-Terrain KM2s on 16x8 Eagle Alloys, custom 2 1/4" exhaust with Magnaflow muffler
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LandRaider
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This is not really my "cup O tea" but hells yes on the fab work.
BIG for your bumper sticker as well.
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87 Raider 4.3 700R4 NP231CHD
Solid Axles, Selectable Lockers, 36's
87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1
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MarkG
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You might want to remove the left foot rest from the Gen II. The early model Gen I trucks did not have this. I believe they appeared in the 1990 models.
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89 6G72 Raider 2dr, ARB Bullbar, Warn Winch, Aisin Hubs, 31x10.5, Cobra CB, Hella Fogs, Bilsteins, PAJERO Badges, Misc AU Parts
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4ePajero
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This thread on Outer Limits should interest you.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2746/4456813324_58c7e36fc0.jpg
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Pajero LWB Gen1 3.2 Di-D TD Engine
33" Bridgestone D694s
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JohnnyBfromPeoria
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I hear if you put diamante pistons in the 3.5 you can get over 700 hp on pump gas.
You must be using Mobil 1 in the crankcase then. I'm told that adds at least 50 RWHP.
This is a cool swap.
John B.
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'95 Montero SR, 35x12.5/15 BFG M/T KM-2's, Rock sliders, Qtr panel chop, gas tank lift, 2" BL, Aisins
'86 SWB Auto, 2" BL, 33" BFG KM-2's
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hazy_daze
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I think he is referencing me grilling him on the 3.0 Raider on the for sale section where he said it had 200hp with diamante pistons.
Can't get nothin by you, huh?
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Reged: 05/09/08
Posts: 97
Loc: Tucker GA
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Things are moving along...
I pulled the Gen 1 engine harness last night.
I welded the mounts today...
Here it is as it sits on the new mounts. The guesstimation of the amount it would compress the rubber seemed to work out pretty well.
I then started working on the exhaust. It's really close to being a perfect fit...close to the point where I think there is probably a "perfect" location for the engine that would require no modification (maybe next time). The passenger torsion bar was the only real issue. The exhaust may ultimately need to be modified by an exhaust shop, but I figured it was good enough for now.
Here is a pic of the second cut I had made to the oil pan. It may not be entirely necessary, but the extra room won't hurt.
I've got the engine back out of the truck now and am about to start pulling pieces off for powdercoating. At this point I think I'm basically down to plumbing and wiring.
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1989 Mitsubishi Montero SWB 0.0L (3.5L soon?) Auto, Front LSD, Rear SR Locker, Aisin hubs, Safari Snorkel, ARB Front Bumper, Warn M8000, Bushwacker Flares
1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
...and a few others less interesting.
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JohnnyBfromPeoria
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This guy's good.
John B.
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hazy_daze
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Yep, Nate's a really cool cat, pretty damn smart. Makes a fine copilot on an adult beverage run too... Seriously Nate, let me know if I can help in any way. Looks really good so far. I'm sure when it's done it'll be a work of art
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fasteddy
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Ha ha. Weld burn thru. Must have been in WWFF's welding class at Embry-Riddle...
It's really a nice project, Nate. Let me know if I can help.
Just ask Frank. I get first chance to break all new engine mods...
Is the 3.0 exhaust the same size as the 3.5?
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Burn through!?!? That's just where I skipped over a (now) unused hole...and on the other mount I skipped the part around the joggle so I'd still have space to get the bolt seated. I will admit I took a picture of the "pretty" side...I was having a helluva time getting warmed up welding today. I did weld the inner and outer sides of the mounts though, the factory was just on the outward facing joints.
I just measured the exhaust...looks like maybe 1/8 larger for the 3.5L. 1 7/8 vs 1 3/4, I could be off though.
I definitely appreciate all the offers of help! Anyone is welcome to stop by and check it out if they're interested.
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Just ask Frank. I get first chance to break all new engine mods...
Do I seem like the kind of guy that's afraid to cut his firewall to fit turbo's? :)
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StockRaider
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Now the big question Nate, are you using the Gen1 transmission? and if so, are you keeping notes on the measurements for those hybrid motor mounts? I would be very interested if you could knock out a set for me when the time comes when my 3.0 finally gives up the compression ghost (one cylinder is already singing its death rattle).
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1989 Montero - SR coils, SR steering box, 31" Wide track Baja
1989 V6 Auto Raider - SR Rear, LSD Front, Superwinch Hubs, 33" BFG Mud terrain KM2
1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6turbo Start of my tuner addiction
1983 Honda XL600R - Supertrapp muffler, EBC Brakes, K270tires
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Loc: Tucker GA
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Now the big question Nate, are you using the Gen1 transmission? and if so, are you keeping notes on the measurements for those hybrid motor mounts?
Yeah, my plans are to use the Gen 1 transmission...for now. But I do fully intend to use the Gen 2 eventually, maybe even pretty quickly after I get the engine going. I like to "compartmentalize" projects...get one thing working, then the next, then the next. But as it stands, the rear face of the engine (where the bellhousing mounts) is in the same position as the 3.0, I didn't try to move things forward or backward.
The mounts are pretty easy to make as long as you have the Gen 1 engine brackets, Gen 1 rubber mounts, and Gen 2 engine brackets. When I cut the triangular part of the mounts off the Gen 1 brackets, I cut the weld right at the engine plate...so there's really no change in their "length". If you look closely in the pics, you can see that the joggle in the Gen 1 triangular piece goes perfectly around a bolt on the Gen 2 engine plate...and on the opposite side of the same triangular piece, the side is shorter...but there's a bulge on the Gen 2 plate that makes up for it. It's almost as if the pieces from the 2 generations were meant to fit together. I don't exactly have any measurements, I basically just used my truck as a welding jig...which I suppose I could do again if needed.
Ok, I also had another thought...
One might be able to use the additional length of the Gen 2 transmission to their advantage for a v6 turbo setup. If you mounted the tranny so the output is in the exact same location as the Gen 1, that would mean the bellhousing would be forward quite a bit... I guess it's 6 of one, 1/2 dozen of another...easier to mess with driveshaft lengths? or engine mount locations?
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1989 Mitsubishi Montero SWB 0.0L (3.5L soon?) Auto, Front LSD, Rear SR Locker, Aisin hubs, Safari Snorkel, ARB Front Bumper, Warn M8000, Bushwacker Flares
1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
...and a few others less interesting.
Edited by SRTNate (05/02/10 01:16 AM)
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FrankR
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Just ask Frank. I get first chance to break all new engine mods...
Do I seem like the kind of guy that's afraid to cut his firewall to fit turbo's?
Afraid? Not at all..... it's just a matter of desire. I have no desire to cut up my truck and no desire for twin turbos.
But it doesn't bother me that others have a different point of view - and I think your 3.5L swap is great. It's good to see what issues you're running into fitting the block - because what I see in combination with what I already knew has caused me to re-think my plans to build a supercharged 3.5L stroker motor. I'd probably never finish it.
Frank
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'89 G-Raider Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 155k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, 165A alt., Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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That wasn't meant as a slight against you Frank...I just realized how my comment sounded. I misread Ed's meaning of "break", and just remembered the story involving the literal meaning.
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1989 Mitsubishi Montero SWB 0.0L (3.5L soon?) Auto, Front LSD, Rear SR Locker, Aisin hubs, Safari Snorkel, ARB Front Bumper, Warn M8000, Bushwacker Flares
1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
...and a few others less interesting.
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hazy_daze
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I misread Ed's meaning of "break", and just remembered the story involving the literal meaning.
Eddy had a hand in the dispatching of the first S/C Frank motor, but I finished the job. He said it was a bearing sammich that took it out, but I know better... I tried to tear up the 2nd one, didn't work out though. Much to my dismay, Frank builds a damn stout motor...
Totally diggin this swap. Wish you'd posted it and I'd seen it before sending my 3.0 to the machine shop....
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Wish you'd posted it and I'd seen it before sending my 3.0 to the machine shop....
Heh, sorry... This actually all came together pretty recently. I'd been thinking about it for awhile, but only found a suitable donor a few weeks ago, after many weeks of searching. Everything I found in Atlanta got snatched up pretty quick, even with me calling people the day they'd post on Craigslist. I ended up having to go to Tennessee. I just finished the scavenging off the 95 about 2 weeks ago, and just started fitting things in the Gen 1 last Sunday.
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1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
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hazy_daze
Roll Me Over
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Loc: Athens, Georgia
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Well damn. By the time I get mine back together, you'll likely be done. Give me a ring when you go wheel it, Eddy has my number...
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Reged: 05/09/08
Posts: 97
Loc: Tucker GA
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Ummm....
...I guess I have the DOHC 23V.
The other rocker was still floating around in there. I'm going to investigate this further tomorrow.
Latest progress: I've got the engine torn down to short block and am going to get a bunch of stuff tanked tomorrow.
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1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
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fasteddy
Web Wheeler
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Posts: 12703
Loc: Flat Creek, GA
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What machine shop are you using?
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Reged: 05/09/08
Posts: 97
Loc: Tucker GA
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Probably Ball...I mean, they did the work for that 200+hp diamante motor...and Matt's Jeep hasn't 'sploded yet. And they're right next door to the powdercoater.
Edited by SRTNate (05/03/10 09:51 PM)
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willwinchforfood
Mudrunner
Reged: 09/15/08
Posts: 439
Loc: Tucker, Ga
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One day soon I predict you will have good luck with a Montero engine for the yellow truck. Soon...
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fasteddy
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Loc: Flat Creek, GA
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That truck has not been right since I kept it from rolling over...
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StockRaider
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Loc: Williamsport PA
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Sweet project overall, I can only hope to copy it in the coming months.
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1989 Montero - SR coils, SR steering box, 31" Wide track Baja
1989 V6 Auto Raider - SR Rear, LSD Front, Superwinch Hubs, 33" BFG Mud terrain KM2
1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6turbo Start of my tuner addiction
1983 Honda XL600R - Supertrapp muffler, EBC Brakes, K270tires
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pmontero
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Loc: Peachtree City, GA USA
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Quote:
That truck has not been right since I kept it from rolling over...
Is that Ole Yeller? I thought that yellow truck looked familiar. Eddy, you'll have to fill me in on the story of how it is now getting a 3.5 swap. Last time I saw it, your son was driving it out of my driveway. I've been gone too long and missed the threads.
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'87 Montero Diesel
'98 Porsche Boxster Electric
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willwinchforfood
Mudrunner
Reged: 09/15/08
Posts: 439
Loc: Tucker, Ga
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I let my wife drive the yellow truck. She drove it everywhere. Of course she believes the throttle is an on/off switch. She loved the thing so much that the thrust bearing for the crank was found in the oilpan. It was still running though. SRTNate took it off my hands and has had "fun" with it ever since. My sister was kind enough to give me her 91 4 door.
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pmontero
Roll Me Over
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Loc: Peachtree City, GA USA
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Only Ole Yeller would still be running with his guts on the ground. I'm glad to see he's still in the 4x4wire family and in good hands. I haven't decided whether to paint my diesel SWB '87 Montero yellow when the conversion's done. Maybe he'll have to stay gold!
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'87 Montero Diesel
'98 Porsche Boxster Electric
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Greasology
NotPetroleum
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pmontero
Roll Me Over
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Loc: Peachtree City, GA USA
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Hey SRTNate, here's a little history on Ole Yeller. I found him in Boynton Beach, FL and drove down with a full U-Haul trailer in my FZJ100 LandCruiser and hauled him back up to Atlanta. He was a total basket case with bashed in back door, rotten seats but still running strong. It turned out that part of the crank cradle was missing but it ran for about 20K miles like that and we didn't find out it was broken until Eddy and I pulled apart the engine to rebuild it. I built him up with new rear door, 3 row core radiator, snorkel, dual bouncies, 33s and a roof rack. He's been all over N. GA. I sold him to build a diesel Montero and you know the rest of the story.
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'98 Porsche Boxster Electric
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TOASTY
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Posts: 5018
Loc: Gilbert AZ, US.
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Looking good, Remind's me of when PA_JERO did this swap except your truck has less body damage and will probably run one day.
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pmontero
Roll Me Over
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Loc: Peachtree City, GA USA
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Hey Nate,
I found a pic of when Ole Yeller arrived home from Boynton Beach, FL in May of 2002. I can't believe it was 8 years ago! Thought you would like to have it.
And here's when Eddy saved him from some serious trail-rash!
-Pmontero
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'87 Montero Diesel
'98 Porsche Boxster Electric
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Greasology
NotPetroleum
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Loc: Cleve-burg OH USA
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What was wrong with the right side of the trail that you were that far over on the left?
It's cool to see a rig with some history continuing on! With Powells recent postings on the diesel forum, I had wondered at times what became of Yellow Truck. Then thought with Nate, "Hey there's another guy with a Yellow Truck."
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Big Truck 1: 95, MT, >Gone<
Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top
Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 29k miles!
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pmontero
Roll Me Over
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I never take the easy route in a Montero... boring! (it was very muddy and there was some pitch to that road you can't see in the pic... I slid over)
Nate, hurry up and get that thing on the road again! We need to take them back up to Stonewall Creek and try it again...
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'87 Montero Diesel
'98 Porsche Boxster Electric
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fasteddy
Web Wheeler
Reged: 01/30/01
Posts: 12703
Loc: Flat Creek, GA
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There is a little more to the story of the incestuous Monteros. Some time back, son John (wwff) was in school in Daytona. He had a friend who had a pretty nice 5spd Maz Navaho (badge engineered 2dr Explorer) with a 5-6" lift for sale. I bought it for my daughter Kate, who had sworn off running away and finally worked her way thru an online high school, and gotten accepted to a good college and in general sorted her life out after a disastrous couple of years. She drove it for several years, until her knees started giving her trouble with the clutch, and I bought her the 91 lwb Monty a/t, which she drove for several years, and gave the Navaho to John, who had lusted for it for years, himself, but he was still driving the Fiat spider I had bought him from his working for me for free earnings. He had it less than 2 weeks when a DHL driver rear ended him at some ridiculous rate of speed in his second wreck of the day, totalling the Navaho and the car in front of it. Powell had the yellow Shogun for sale at the time, so I bought it for John to make up for the loss of the Navaho. He drove it for several years, as did his wife. Kate in the meantime graduated from college (Finally!!!) and got a great job making tons of money, and wanted a new car. She was disgusted with the tradein offer on the 91 lwb, and ended up giving it to her brother John, and John sold the Shogun to his friend from college Nate, who I consider sort of a foster son. I think I paid Powell $2500 for the Shogun, $3600 for the Navaho, and $1100 for the 91 LWB, which was probably the best of the bunch, or tied with the Shogun.
See why I call it an incestuous trail??? And I think that wooden roof rack in the almost rollover pic is now on John's 91 lwb
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Reged: 05/09/08
Posts: 97
Loc: Tucker GA
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Thanks for all the background pics and info on the truck! I guess that rocker dent is even older than I realized...I've got a set of sliders to put on, but I was going to try to pull the dent out a bit before I blocked it with those.
John's got the Safari rack on his...I've still got the wooden ones in my shed. Yellow has a modified Landrover rack on it now.
All right, I just got back from Iowa...work will now resume.
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1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
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Mudraider
Body Damage is Cool
Reged: 12/16/07
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Loc: Orange Park, FL
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Watching this with greast interest Nate. Looking forward to coming back from the weekend and seeing your progress. The driveshaft is the biggest issue I see with this. Not knowledgable enough to know what could be done to make it work.
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Reged: 05/09/08
Posts: 97
Loc: Tucker GA
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I appreciate all the enthusiasm! I haven't stopped working on things, it's just been a bit slow this past week. Just as I got home Monday I started coming down with a case of the plague. I did manage to make a little bit of progress though.
I've got the Gen 1 wiring removed from the headlights, back to the connection to the rear harness under the rear seat. So, now that I can lay out all the Gen 1 and 2 wiring I can get started blending the two together. Theres a "War Room" effect going on right now in my living room with many sheets of taped together schematics laid out like battle plans. I'm going to try to make an real effort to document the wiring aspect as best as I can, but it's going to be tricky.
As I was pulling the connector off the driver headlight, one of the spades on the light bulb broke of...so obviously I saw this as a sign that it was time for an HID upgrade. Plus, I figured since the wiring is going to get refurbished/modified, I could do a nice seamless blend of the HID ballast wiring into the factory harness.
I've also been working on getting the fuel lines taken care of. The Gen 1 supply and return have a junction basically right underneath the drivers feet...so it's really a perfect place to connect the Gen 2 lines in. The Gen 2 lines will need to be shortened significantly, but then it's just a matter of re-flaring the end and connecting everything back together. The bolt holes in the firewall aren't in exactly the same place, but pretty close...it just requires moving the clamps around a bit. I'm not quite done with this yet, but most of the way there...
The engine is in the process of getting cleaned up and checked over. And I've got a nice big box of parts that I need to clean, smooth, and get over to the powdercoater.
I'll update this post with pics when I get a chance...
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1989 Mitsubishi Montero SWB 0.0L (3.5L soon?) Auto, Front LSD, Rear SR Locker, Aisin hubs, Safari Snorkel, ARB Front Bumper, Warn M8000, Bushwacker Flares
1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
...and a few others less interesting.
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Mudraider
Body Damage is Cool
Reged: 12/16/07
Posts: 1353
Loc: Orange Park, FL
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Allright, it's been 4 days....we're waiting. Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet?  Looking forward to the update.
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Reged: 05/09/08
Posts: 97
Loc: Tucker GA
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Well, really didn't manage to get much done this weekend. Work followed me home, and I even had to turn down a trail ride with some jeepers. But, here are a few more pics...
Fuel line comparison:
Hid kit:
Gen 1 wiring harness removed:
Under dash with almost no wires:
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1989 Mitsubishi Montero SWB 0.0L (3.5L soon?) Auto, Front LSD, Rear SR Locker, Aisin hubs, Safari Snorkel, ARB Front Bumper, Warn M8000, Bushwacker Flares
1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
...and a few others less interesting.
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hazy_daze
Roll Me Over
Reged: 05/22/07
Posts: 4609
Loc: Athens, Georgia
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Quote:
Hid kit:
What's something like that run? And is it a drop-in to the H4 cans or are other mods necessary? Interested in case the LED's don't captivate my interest after I get it back on the road...
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Reged: 05/09/08
Posts: 97
Loc: Tucker GA
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It was about $80...I got it off Amazon. I figured they might be a bit of a gamble, but I wasn't about to gamble on the kits that are a few hundred dollars. Yeah, they're drop-ins for the H-4 cans. I've got those on the way from JCWhitney. The hids look ridiculously easy to install...they have a male connector that just plugs into the factory headlight connection. Once I get the cans I'll plug them in outside the truck and let you know how they look.
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1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
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fasteddy
Web Wheeler
Reged: 01/30/01
Posts: 12703
Loc: Flat Creek, GA
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And will the dash stay brick red?
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hazy_daze
Roll Me Over
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Loc: Athens, Georgia
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Cool. There was some discussion about the negative effects on oncoming drivers due to the inability of the H4 cans reflector to handle the spectrum of light that's emitted by the HID bulb. I've seen some that were terrible and some that were great. Not sure why there's such a difference. You're a smart guy, I'm sure it'll be easy for ya to manipulate light spectrums.... Especially since you fart lightning bolts....
No clue where that came from. I are tired...
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Reged: 05/09/08
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Loc: Tucker GA
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Quote:
And will the dash stay brick red?
Mmmmmmm....I kinda doubt it. I haven't decided on a color. Yellow, gray, charcoal, tan...I dunno.
Also, I can't remember the color temperature of the hid bulbs...but it's supposed to be white.
Edited by SRTNate (05/17/10 11:53 PM)
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fasteddy
Web Wheeler
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Loc: Flat Creek, GA
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The light color temp should make no diff to the surface deposited reflector in the h4 can, and I can't think why it would to the lensing of the front quartz, IF the light source is similar in placement and size to the normal h4 bulb filament.
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Reged: 05/09/08
Posts: 97
Loc: Tucker GA
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Well, I was kinda all over the place with projects this weekend...but luckily they pretty much all ended up being on the truck:
-Disassembled the heads and took them to the machine shop
-Disassembled, cleaned and reassembled the climate blower, and installed new foam on the flapper.
-Painted passenger side of engine compartment...not beautiful, but an improvement
-Analyzed the MAF mounting situation...looks like mounting it to the Gen 1 can should be pretty straightforward. I'll probably have to do some custom ducting, but I'm sure McMaster-Carr will have all I need.
-More wiring harness sorting. Isolated rear section of Gen1 harness in preparation to merge it into the Gen 2. Probably will do the same thing with the Gen 1 horn/headlight/washer/etc section that goes forward from the firewall. Looks like I'll have to do a lot of connector swapping for things like door locks, windows, climate etc.
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1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
...and a few others less interesting.
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Mudraider
Body Damage is Cool
Reged: 12/16/07
Posts: 1353
Loc: Orange Park, FL
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One month down, 3 weeks to go. Picking up another 87 Raider, has a blown motor. Will be swapping in the one I got from Eli. The Mudraider is going to be getting its air locker rears, new springs, and complete Gen 2 front brake/UCA/master cyl upgrade. So I need some inspiration. So how's the project coming along? 
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Reged: 05/09/08
Posts: 97
Loc: Tucker GA
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Things are still moving along. I was out of town for a week, and I only just got some of my parts back from the machine shop. I think I have everything together now that I want to get powdercoated, so hopefully a start can be made on that this week. It appears that the engine is just about done.
The engine compartment is all painted and ready to go now. I just got a TIG, so I've been learning how to use that by further solidifying my dashboard mounts, and filling in the clearance holes on my oil pan. As soon as I'm done welding on the inside, I think I'm ready to start getting the wiring finalized.
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1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
...and a few others less interesting.
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haztoys
Rock Warrior
Reged: 08/03/09
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Loc: Prescott AZ
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Reged: 05/09/08
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Loc: Tucker GA
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Ok...so...
Thursday I got my engine back from the machine shop, and Friday I got my parts back from powdercoating...black, yellow, anthracite, and ceramic.
I couldn't resist mocking it up a bit...
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1989 Mitsubishi Montero SWB 0.0L (3.5L soon?) Auto, Front LSD, Rear SR Locker, Aisin hubs, Safari Snorkel, ARB Front Bumper, Warn M8000, Bushwacker Flares
1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
...and a few others less interesting.
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fasteddy
Web Wheeler
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and that's Billy's powdercoating - nice work, huh? A pretty nice guy, too...
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Mudraider
Body Damage is Cool
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Posts: 1353
Loc: Orange Park, FL
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Looking great. Hope to see this one in November. hint, hint I was looking for this thread earlier to see what was going on.
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Mad_Scientist
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Can't beat engine parts sitting on a carpet
Looks fantastic!
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'97 Montero 'LSR' - 4.6 gears & factory rear locker, 33" Procomp muds on 15x8 steelies, 50mm coil spacers, T-bar crank, Airlift, sans rear sway, 50mm rear frame & fuel tank lift, Aisins, ARB front bumper + 10k lb winch, 50mm DIY body lift, rock sliders, cut rear quarter panels...
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Reged: 05/09/08
Posts: 97
Loc: Tucker GA
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To answer the previous question regarding whether the Gen1 and Gen2 oil pans are interchangeable...no, the bolt pattern and general fit are significantly different.
Progress...
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1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
...and a few others less interesting.
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JAVYPRO
Body Damage is Cool
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Loc: Buford, GA USA
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Quote:
Ok...so...
Thursday I got my engine back from the machine shop, and Friday I got my parts back from powdercoating...black, yellow, anthracite, and ceramic.
I couldn't resist mocking it up a bit...
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and that's Billy's powdercoating - nice work, huh? A pretty nice guy, too...
That is nice a looking job.  Do you have his contact information? I might use his services on my current turbo project, tell me a bit more about the coatings he did.
Javy
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Reged: 05/09/08
Posts: 97
Loc: Tucker GA
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Millers Powder Coating
4251-B Wayside Ct
Lilburn, GA 30047
770-931-1505
www.millerpowdercoating.com
All the colors are just basic powdercoat...he can do pretty much any color in the rainbow, and also some paints with "effects" like a hammered finish etc. I think he can also do some sort of baked on pinstriping now too....but I'm not 100% positive about that. He's got all sort of different coatings...heat dissipating coatings, coatings that'll work on firearms, etc...
The shiny parts in the pics are ceramic coated.
Here is more of his handywork, and projects I've worked on:
Tell him I sent you...
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1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
...and a few others less interesting.
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fasteddy
Web Wheeler
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Posts: 12703
Loc: Flat Creek, GA
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Is that Mat's Heep? Gonna have to sell that when he changes his name to "Daddy"...
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87Montero
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That thing is looking FINE!
Good work!
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'92 Isuzu Pickup: V6,4x4,5spd,TJM Front Bumper,9k Winch, DOR Rear Bumper, RR Hubs, 3" Calmini Lift, 4.77s, 33" TSLs
2008 Saturn Sky Redline - 3 Pedals and a turbo :)
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hazy_daze
Roll Me Over
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Loc: Athens, Georgia
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Damn nice lookin stuff Nate
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Reged: 05/09/08
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Loc: Tucker GA
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Luckily the engine has not grown, nor has the truck shrunk...
There is still much to do. I had pretty much reached a point where things could be assembled no further with the engine outside the truck.
I've been doing work on the wiring as well...much sorting and labeling. That too is reaching the point where it needs to be put back in the truck. A lot of the 'final locations' of various connectors needs to be determined before splices are made.
I hope I'll be able to coherently document how I've done the wiring, but one problem I'm running into is that no matter how you arrange a bundle of wires, taking a picture of it still just looks like a big mass of wires. I'll figure something out...
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1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
...and a few others less interesting.
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87Montero
Trail Leader
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wow. 
How's the interior project coming?
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'92 Isuzu Pickup: V6,4x4,5spd,TJM Front Bumper,9k Winch, DOR Rear Bumper, RR Hubs, 3" Calmini Lift, 4.77s, 33" TSLs
2008 Saturn Sky Redline - 3 Pedals and a turbo :)
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willwinchforfood
Mudrunner
Reged: 09/15/08
Posts: 439
Loc: Tucker, Ga
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That whole project is dumb. I think you should have left it stock. You wont win any shows with that one. Use the search function. I think your truck is going to tip over due to the excess weight up front. Dont you think the rear axle is going to fall out with all that power. Blah Blah Blah Sarcasm Blah Blah Front LSD fun times Blah Blah.
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hazy_daze
Roll Me Over
Reged: 05/22/07
Posts: 4609
Loc: Athens, Georgia
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Leave it to for food to be sarcastic and a douchebag to a relatively new guy. Way to go idiot. Of course his swap sucks and it'll tip over. But you don't have to tell him that in open forum...
Yes, you should have used the search function.
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willwinchforfood
Mudrunner
Reged: 09/15/08
Posts: 439
Loc: Tucker, Ga
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what about the axle falling out of the back. No one has answered that yet.
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Impatient a$$...
I said use the search function. All of your questions will be answered if you'll just use the damn thing.
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fasteddy
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Much better, children...
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Must be a GA thing
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Must be a GA thing
Don't think we could even explain it...
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SRTNate
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Well, I just almost choked while laughing...
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How's the interior project coming?
It's moving along...getting the wiring finalized is a bit of a hindrance to getting everything buttoned up, but since everything has been mounted and then disassembled, it should go back together pretty easy. Stay tuned to see how to make a FrankenSteering-column.
That actually brings me to a question I have...(and I'm not using the search function)
Is it impossible to edit posts beyond a certain age? Since this project is made of so many "sub-projects" I was hoping I might be able to edit the initial post so it could have quick links to the other projects, rather than try to roll everything into this one.
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1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
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fasteddy
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In answer to your question, use the search function, silly Yankee....
Yes, they get too old to edit, but the mods may be able to help you out...
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Mad_Scientist
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Quote:
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Must be a GA thing
Don't think we could even explain it...
Figured
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willwinchforfood
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What kind of torque are you getting out of that 0.0 liter?
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SRTNate
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What kind of torque are you getting out of that 0.0 liter?
I think about 0.0 fathom/kilograms.
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1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
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What kind of torque are you getting out of that 0.0 liter?
I think about 0.0 fathom/kilograms.
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Is it impossible to edit posts beyond a certain age? Since this project is made of so many "sub-projects" I was hoping I might be able to edit the initial post so it could have quick links to the other projects, rather than try to roll everything into this one.
Yes, editing privilege expires after a while on the posts unless you're a mod. PM me what you want to add and I'll be happy to do that for you.
Do me a favor though and make it easy for me by sending exactly what you want to add so I can simply copy and paste it into your original post.
Nice build thread BTW.
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fasteddy
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I think it's making fig newton metres, not bad for a 0.0 motor, and the mileage is fantastic, and the VE is infinite....
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I think it's making fig newton metres, not bad for a 0.0 motor, and the mileage is fantastic, and the VE is infinite....
But what is the compression ratio?
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willwinchforfood
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I hope you plan on painting that AC comp.
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fasteddy
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John and I and wife and g'daughter Aubrey went over to Nate's yesterday after taking Aubrey swimming (some duck in that child) and it looks nicer in person than in the pics. You can not imagine how many hours are in this thing so far, unless you have jumped off into the unknown on a complex project yourself. The work is very, very nice.
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SRTNate
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...and it looks nicer in person than in the pics. You can not imagine how many hours are in this thing so far, unless you have jumped off into the unknown on a complex project yourself. The work is very, very nice.
Thanks a ton Ed, I was glad you could stop by to see it and throw around some ideas.
Meanwhile, I have a slight oversight to document...
I was not aware that the Gen 2 3.5L flywheel had 3 more teeth on it. This puts the starter in an incorrect location to bolt into the Gen 1 transmission.
And, whatever these things are called...they needed to be modified too.
I apparently forgot to take an "after cutting" pic, but you get the idea...
This all took place about a week ago, so the engine is primed, sparkplugs are in, and all the final little bits are on the engine. I still need to finalize the fuel lines, but they're probably 9/10ths of the way done. One other main sub-project that needs to be completed is to adapt the Gen 2 Mass Airflow Sensor to the Gen 1 air box...but I have somewhat of a plan for this.
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1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
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fasteddy
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they are called by a very esoteric term. "engine plate"...
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I've always called them scatter shields.
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fasteddy
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What I called scatter shields were the steel cans around the bellhousing to catch the hypervelocity bits of an exploding clutch. I understand the current teck is a kevlar wrap around secured with straps, which would be a shitepile easier.
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What I called scatter shields were the steel cans around the bellhousing to catch the hypervelocity bits of an exploding clutch. I understand the current teck is a kevlar wrap around secured with straps, which would be a shitepile easier.
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Solid Axles, Selectable Lockers, 36's
87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1
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fasteddy
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Watched a guy almost bleed to death and have his '55 2dr post chebbie get cut almost in half by a clutch exploding behind a 301 at near 9000rpms
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SRTNate
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...and then there was MAF.
Lots of pics, but I figured it might be helpful to see the progression.
The existing hose is just there for...well, really no reason at all. I'm still trying to decide how exactly I'm going to plumb the intake.
Everything is weird diameters and circumferences...
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1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
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Watched a guy almost bleed to death and have his '55 2dr post chebbie get cut almost in half by a clutch exploding behind a 301 at near 9000rpms
That one came out of my chevelle. I was lucky. Broke the bellhousing in alot of different parts. It came through the floor in 1 spot, but no blood was released.
Nate, that motor install looks amazingly clean. the 3.5 aint my thing, but that looks great.
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Solid Axles, Selectable Lockers, 36's
87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1
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FrankR
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Very nicely done, Nate.
Frank
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heathdogg
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I bet with a little bit a fanagling of the Air box mounts you could get the box to work with the 3.5 hose.
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RECON45
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I might have missed but did you relocate the battery for this to work out? Good job on the air box. The tube is not tobad you have many ways to tackle it but as a reminder you need to have a joint or some span of the tubing to be flexiable for the engine vibration. i would lob off the middle part of the rubber hosing and bend out some steel tubing and fit it into the rubber elbows You have left. good Luck with it.
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SRTNate
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I bet with a little bit a fanagling of the Air box mounts you could get the box to work with the 3.5 hose.
Well, I kinda wanted to keep the airbox in the same location. It's out of the way where it is, and it saves me from having to reconfigure air box mounts, power steering reservoir location, and snorkel ducting.
I've been trying to find a way to use the existing hose, but the main problem is the 45deg bend straight out of the MAF. If I could find a short straight section that couples to the MAF it would really simplify things...though it seems in pretty much every vehicle with that MAF, there is an immediate angle coming out of the sensor. I've checked CAPS, and also just got back from a pull-a-part brainstorming session.
The other complication is that the diameter of the throttle body is 2.75", and the MAF is basically a squashed 3.75" diameter. That kinda puts them right between two common sizes, and really limits my selection of fittings. I may just have to use 3" and 4" fittings, and just wrap the sensor and throttle body with something to tighten things up. There's plenty of fittings in those dimensions.
Hmmmm...yeah, I think I'll try to do that.
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I might have missed but did you relocate the battery for this to work out?
Good catch...Yeah, it became pretty obvious to me pretty early on that there wouldn't really be a great way to keep a battery under the hood. So, I'm going to just relocate it...somewhere. I'm considering behind the seats, but I'm still looking at what my options might be. Also along the same lines, I'm going to try to locate the Power Distribution Center (The underhood box with the fuses and relays) behind the seat as well.
The old battery position still is a nice perch for something...compressor maybe?
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1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
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Mudraider
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Grasscat
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I'm considering behind the seats, but I'm still looking at what my options might be. Also along the same lines, I'm going to try to locate the Power Distribution Center (The underhood box with the fuses and relays) behind the seat as well.
Have a look at the Gen II.5 Amp location. It's behind the rear seat.
I would think this would solve the battery location and it's deep enough for a battery. You may have to get creative in you battery selection though.
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TreadLightly! Trainer
Grasscat III, 1994 Gen 2 Five speed, Stock ( for a little while )
GrassCat II, 1998 Gen 2.5 Locked and loaded. Ran off with Hector.
GrassCat I, 1991 Gen 1 Ran off with Justice.
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hazy_daze
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Looks good Nate
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RECON45
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Yeah thats an idea cut out a box in the floor and put the battery and electricals in there then route them to the engine bay. You could also gut out one of those storage boxes in the rear and make it into a battery tray area. If you did not put so much work into getting the gen 2 dash in I would suggest building something in the glove box area so you are not having to run your wires so far out. With your creativeness on this project so far I bet you will figure out something.
In the space you have that would make a great spot for onboard air set up.
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SRTNate
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Bling-bling y'all...
I may have to modify my MAF mount to get a bit of a better angle for the tube. The MAF coupling was 1/4" undersized, so it was a bit of a stretch fit. The throttle body coupling is 1/4" oversized, so I still need to find something to take up the gap.
I have also completed the fuel line modding...
Unmolested Gen 2 upper right
Molested Gen 2...connects directly to the Gen 1 frame-rail fuel lines.
I forgot to take a picture of the lines bolted to the firewall, but it's pretty straightforward. Here's what the Gen 1 looked like:
...and this is what the Gen 2 looks like:
Quote:
...cut out a box in the floor and put the battery and electricals in there then route them to the engine bay.
This is kinda the idea I've been leaning toward...I need to start doing some investigating into what the structure looks like below the floor in certain areas.
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I need to come see this jewel...
PM forthcoming...
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willwinchforfood
Mudrunner
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Still no paint on that AC compressor.
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hazy_daze
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Took the wife and kids to see it, in person, earlier today.
About all I can say is wow. Looks so much more intimidating in person. Much, much, much bigger project than the pictures suggest. There's alot of things that he's done that probably could've been done easier, but they wouldn't look as good or function as seemless as they do now. It seriously is looking OE. Still a heap of work left to do, but he's definitely on the downhill side.
Looks great. It was good to talk with you again. I got some inspiration for a few ideas I've been toying with. Again, let me know if there's anything you need.
And Lisa said "thank you!" again for the ivy starts...
And yeah, paint that frickin compressor. It's bringin the whole gig down...
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StockRaider
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I hope I am not wrong to bring this up to top, but I was wondering if the wiring was tackled yet? I threw out the idea of using the Gen2 trans in my swap because I want to keep the lever rod shifter and speedo gauge wouldn't swap. I would like to see a preview of the wiring I will have to cut out of the Gen2 harness.
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1989 Montero - SR coils, SR steering box, 31" Wide track Baja
1989 V6 Auto Raider - SR Rear, LSD Front, Superwinch Hubs, 33" BFG Mud terrain KM2
1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6turbo Start of my tuner addiction
1983 Honda XL600R - Supertrapp muffler, EBC Brakes, K270tires
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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You should be able to do a stand-alone swap of a Gen 2 transmission with its ECM. The wiring going to and from the ECM isn't as complicated as it would seem.
One issue is the mechanical/electrical speedometer interface. An option that I can think of, BUT HAVE NOT VERIFIED, is to use something like an Autometer speedometer sender. It's made to give a pulse output from a transmission that had a mechanical cable output, but still has an output side that you could hook the mechanical speedometer cable up to. It may require some custom speedometer cables to be made, and I don't know if it gives the correct pulse output.
I'm leaving the Gen 1 transmission in my truck for now, and just leaving the Gen 2 transmission wiring disconnected until I'm ready to do that swap. Though, I plan to swap the electronic speedometer sender and the gear indicator switch over in the meantime.
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1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
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StockRaider
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It's not just the speedo that is a concern, but just all the vac lines that I had to remove (along with the idea of switching from lever/rod linkage to cable doesn't sit well with me). The G1 transmission is a nicer unit in my eyes since it only needs the kickdown cable and OD solinoid to make it run like it should. I might keep the G2 trans, but since my LWB trans only has 50k on it. I should be OK and not break it.
Any new pictures since the last update? is it running yet?
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1989 Montero - SR coils, SR steering box, 31" Wide track Baja
1989 V6 Auto Raider - SR Rear, LSD Front, Superwinch Hubs, 33" BFG Mud terrain KM2
1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6turbo Start of my tuner addiction
1983 Honda XL600R - Supertrapp muffler, EBC Brakes, K270tires
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SRTNate
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Yes, I could see switching to the G2 trans being a bit more difficult without all the supporting G2 wiring...but not impossible. If you still want to go down that road, I'd be more than happy to help you sort out what needs to be done. Also, if you have a G2 shifter, using the cable shift assembly should be pretty easy.
My build has been pretty slow going...this year in general has been a lot busier for me at work, and there seems to have been a steady flow of other vehicular projects to keep me sidetracked...including 2 other monteros.
But, it's odd this thread got bumped today, because I made more progress today than I had in quite a while.
I've got most of the wiring done and am pretty close to connecting a battery, and starting to verify that everything works. One thing I'd been dragging my feet on was the physical mounting of some of the electrical components...fuse box, relays, etc... But now that is done, and I can finalize the routing of the wiring harnesses.
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1984 Mitsubishi Montero
2005 Dodge SRT-4
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (in pieces)
...and a few others less interesting.
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willwinchforfood
Mudrunner
Reged: 09/15/08
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Loc: Tucker, Ga
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I hope you lubed all the bolts and screws that hold the fuse panels and relays in. The torque is whatever you make it up to be or 38 ft lbs, your choice. I am eating breakfast right now.
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Mudraider
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So how is this coming along. Blew up my 2.6 so I'm starting mine soon. Careful disassembly of the 94 SR with lots of pics and tags of everything. Can't screw this up!
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bumpers, sliders, OME 2" lift Dakar springs, 98 Air locker, disc brake rear end, Gen 2 front brakes, plh manual hubs,
88 SWB-2.6/5spd, 2" BL, bumpers and sliders, Starion shift knob
89 SWB, V-6 6SPD, OME Shocks, 15X10 w/33's, 2"BL
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PA_JERO
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You are gonna have to let me know how the truck does with cold start.I finished this swap almost a year ago but I still have a cold start issue. I haven't been to worried about trying to totally fix it quite yet because the summer months here in AZ barely gets below 100 degrees even in the night:8. I'm sure it says it somewhere in the post but I can't remember. Did you use the gen 2 dash?
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StockRaider
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my SR is torn down, and the husk sent to the JY. I would start mine, but I have a Hyundai to rebuild, and then my Raider is smelling bad so that might go 2.6T
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Richard E
1989 Montero - SR coils, SR steering box, 31" Wide track Baja
1989 V6 Auto Raider - SR Rear, LSD Front, Superwinch Hubs, 33" BFG Mud terrain KM2
1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6turbo Start of my tuner addiction
1983 Honda XL600R - Supertrapp muffler, EBC Brakes, K270tires
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