4ePikanini
Mudrunner
Reged: 05/07/09
Posts: 435
Loc: South Africa
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Two images are not working. I'll fix that on monday
PS : When I talk about clicking below, I'm talking about the starter solenoid clicking - NOT the clicking you might hear in the dash. If you you have a click in the dash but no click in the solenoid you have an immobiliser or ignition or fuse or wiring problem, and need to see an auto electrician or trace the fault.
First things first
Disconnect the battery as we are working with a live 12v cable
Then remove the cables to the starter
Then the 2 bolts that hold the starter in place
You can now have this in your hand plus the heatshield
The clicking that people hear is due this cylinder getting stuck in this tube
I took close-ups to show my wear over 260k kilometers of use.
(I'm pretty confident my starter and solenoid is original as it's branded mitsu and people don't replace originals - usually )
The clicking ( and not cranking ) is due to either
- excessive sticking of the cylinder in the tube due to rust ( long standing ) or dirt
- lack of 12v to the solenoid due to old wiring or bad ground or flat battery
If you get the dreaded repetitive clicking it is usually a flat battery as the battery has enough power to get the solenoid going, but as soon as the connection is made and the starter motors draws current, the battery loses voltage and the solenoid disengages. Then the battery has voltage again and the process starts over.....click..click..click..click..click
The cylinder
The tube
When the solenoid engages it also pushes the gear teeth towards the flywheel ring gear ( otherwise the starter would always turn when the motor is running and would wear very quickly ), when the 12v is removed from the solenoid the spring pushes the solenoid back towards the original position where current does not flow to the starter.
And then the inside of the starter
I'm not an expert and the info given here might be wrong. I'm open to corrections.
I take no responsibility for the correctness or accuracy of info given above.
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2001 Gen3 Di-D LWB - SOLD
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Edited by 4ePikanini (02/27/10 06:34 AM)
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LandRaider
Forum Moderator
Reged: 09/04/01
Posts: 8409
Loc: Ocean Springs, MS
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Nice writeup!!! thanks a bunch!!
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87 Raider 4.3 700R4 NP231CHD
Solid Axles, Selectable Lockers, 36's
87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1
Almost all stock.
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Bernoulli
Mudrunner
Reged: 05/17/06
Posts: 425
Loc: Brisbane OZ/NW USA
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Very, very nice!
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89 3L V6 5spd SWB, 2 (suspension) seater Raider in Ferndale, WA or Portland , OR
95 3L V6 5spd,SWB, 3 seater Pajero GLS Redland Bay, QLD
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Guns_and_Roses
Wheeler
Reged: 12/29/09
Posts: 162
Loc: Cali
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did mine awhile ago. kept the pix for reference.
it is a straight forward rebuild. you will need rags to clean and grease to reassemble. unless something is badly worn.
:)
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1989 Dodge Raider 3.0 with dented gas tank
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fasteddy
Web Wheeler
Reged: 01/30/01
Posts: 12707
Loc: Flat Creek, GA
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I mostly agree. The connection on the solenoid shown as "ground" is a actually, as shown from the rest of the exploded photo, the feed wire for the motor brushes. The actual ground is the starter case to the block, both for the solenoid and the starter motor. The dreaded click is either crud holding the solenoid from going full stroke, or arc corrosion on the starter current path contacts or the contact disc on the solenoid piston core, keeping the heavy juice from getting to the starter brushes. All the rest I see is correct.
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