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Seattlegti
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Snow chains. Front, rear or both?
      #1133474 - 12/23/08 02:59 PM

I'm running front only and so far so good. Snow is only a foot deep but the roads are iced over really bad so I figured front would be safer. Must've pulled 12 cars out this weekend.

What are you guys running???

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DarkWolf40
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Reged: 11/24/05
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Loc: Colorado
Re: Snow chains. Front, rear or both? [Re: Seattlegti]
      #1133609 - 12/24/08 10:56 AM

My owners manual says to not run chains on the Rubicon. Not sure why that is, anybody know?

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BobRowe
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Reged: 09/25/05
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Re: Snow chains. Front, rear or both? [Re: Seattlegti]
      #1133631 - 12/24/08 12:57 PM

Sorry, can't help. We can't run chains here in Michigan.

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KF6ZPLAdministrator
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Reged: 02/15/00
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Re: Snow chains. Front, rear or both? [Re: BobRowe]
      #1133633 - 12/24/08 01:37 PM

Chains are not recommended on front of many 4x4s due to steering knuckle and brake configurations; especially disc brakes and IFS axles.

Drum brakes are enclosed with no exterior moving parts. Disc brakes do have exterior parts that can be damaged by standard tire chains.

Hence, manufactures warn against using chains on the front.

There are a number of new styles of chains being produced that are touted as being compatible with disc brake systems.

In the mean time, if you need chains, chain the rear only.

Loose fitting or improperly installed chains can damage brake lines....

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Seattlegti
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Re: Snow chains. Front, rear or both? [Re: KF6ZPL]
      #1134258 - 12/29/08 04:18 PM

Quote:

My owners manual says to not run chains on the Rubicon.




Guessing it's because the rear sway bar on JK Rubicons is really close to the inside of the tires.
Or Chrysler is just covering thier butt.

I've always run rear only until this storm hit, the thick ice under the snow made it impossible to drive without chains up front.

This is AFTER they plowed the roads. Just ice.
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Brown81CJ5
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Re: Snow chains. Front, rear or both? [Re: Seattlegti]
      #1134383 - 12/30/08 02:26 PM

I was up there for Christmas...that was the most snow i have ever seen without actually going to a mountain. My inlaws live in Bonney Lake. Their view is absolutely amazing of Mt Rainier...will have to post a few pics later when I get around to it...in the OT section.

The inlaws run studded tires and they seemed to work well.

In your pic above...it's funny that fresh cut trees drive carefully.

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Edited by Brown81CJ5 (12/30/08 02:27 PM)


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PartyTruck
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Re: Snow chains. Front, rear or both? [Re: Brown81CJ5]
      #1134398 - 12/30/08 03:50 PM

I'm amazed that you use snowchains for something like that on a 4x4. You are better off using good snow capable tires with slightly less air in them than usual. Siping is also very good especialy if you sipe the whole tread, siping the middle and studding the outsides works well too if you think you need studs.
Last man I knew that used snowchains was my grandfather.

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Brown81CJ5
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Re: Snow chains. Front, rear or both? [Re: PartyTruck]
      #1134403 - 12/30/08 04:04 PM

Seattle does not normally get snow...just the surrounding mountains. Not normal weather for them. My inlaws had studded tires and those worked very well in the snow and ice.

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Seattlegti
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Reged: 06/23/05
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Re: Snow chains. Front, rear or both? [Re: Brown81CJ5]
      #1135991 - 01/09/09 02:34 PM


Quote:

I'm amazed that you use snowchains for something like that on a 4x4. You are better off using good snow capable tires with slightly less air in them than usual. Siping is also very good especialy if you sipe the whole tread, siping the middle and studding the outsides works well too if you think you need studs.
Last man I knew that used snowchains was my grandfather.





I totally agree, I had my new BFG MT's siped before they were installed 2 months ago.
Still slipping and sliding all over the place at 15 psi.
Finally got to use that ARB air down thingy I got my in recovery kit for xmas though.
It was the freezing rain before the snow that killed us.

Water is receeding. We're heading out to Enumclaw after work to help with the cleanup.

Half expect Mt.Rainier to blow next. 2 blizzards, a flood, 70 MPH winds and wherehouse fire next door is a bit much in 2 weeks time.

Good call on greasing the hubs, I've been drinving through deep water for days...

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Brown81CJ5
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Re: Snow chains. Front, rear or both? [Re: Seattlegti]
      #1136024 - 01/09/09 07:35 PM

My inlaws used to live in Enumclaw. Now they live in Bonney Lake. I guess it is good that they moved...they are on higher ground now.

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