Anonymous
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It's time to pick up a set of rear springs for my '93.
A lot of guys have been running the VSW springs, but there have been scattered reports that they start to sag early.
I don't know anything about the Pedders, although I see some of our friends down under use them.
Old Man Emu also makes a set. They are probably high quality, but only provide about 1" or so lift over stock. Maybe an extra 1.5" could be gained from using a spacer above the coil. (I think the toyota/isuzu guys do that)
My Monte won't be used for any heavy towing. I just want some more clearance to clear 32's, and maintain a decent ride.
Thanks in advance,
Steve
[ September 02, 2002, 09:25 AM: Message edited by: DougH ]
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Lloyd Swartz
Web Wheeler
Reged: 01/16/00
Posts: 7700
Loc: Albuquerque NM US
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Unfortunately the VSW are still the way to go, I have an extra set for sale. Know nothing of Pedders, but 1.5" aint much. The OME are OBVIOUSLY designed for a lighter vehicle and collapse after a few days and cause sever bottoming out do to being vastly weeker then stock. Yes, tried it twice in the past.
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Starting over with a stock 1996 SR. Currently entrusted to the Arizona Mitsubishi Skunk Works Monster Build Division.
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AlanMc
Wheeler
Reged: 03/13/00
Posts: 243
Loc: Grenada W.I.
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I have the pedders coils and they work great, I was attempting to get the VSW coils but they never returned any faxes or emails that I sent so I just got vex and just emailed a company in australia and had my coils in about 3 weeks.
It cost a bit more but it was less hassle.Hope that helps Alan ------------------
1993 V6 2Door
33x12.5 cooper discoverer STT
15x7" American racing rim
2" Pedders rear coils
k & N air filter
ARB Snorkel
ARB Compressor & tire inflation kit
ARB rear Locker
Warn XD9000i winch
Custom winch bar
Torsion bar lift in front
longer Rancho Rs9000 shocks
Sway bars removed
My 2nd. Pajero
Surco Roof rack
http://www.4x4wire.com/mitsubishi/featured_mitsu/mcintyre/
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1993 Pajero 3.0 V6 5 speed locked and lifted with 35"
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PHIL
Mitsubishi Section Editor and Moderator
Reged: 01/09/00
Posts: 7145
Loc: Airdrie, Alberta
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quote:
Originally posted by Lloyd Swartz:
Unfortunately the VSW are still the way to go, I have an extra set for sale. Know nothing of Pedders, but 1.5" aint much. The OME are OBVIOUSLY designed for a lighter vehicle and collapse after a few days and cause sever bottoming out do to being vastly weeker then stock. Yes, tried it twice in the past.
What about stock four door springs? Are they any higher than stock 2 door springs? If so, it might be a great chance to "recycle" for us 2 door guys, by swapping in some discarded 4 door coils you guys have lying around!  (Sure beats rubber boosters) PHIL ------------------
89 V6 Raider (totally rebadged MITSU), 2door: 1.5" torsion bar "lift",2" coil spacers,Thule rack,Hellas,KC Daylighters, factory LSD, Jackall mounted on roof, 93 Monty bumper/reverse lights, CB w/K40 antenna, 12disc CD, custom head/tail-light guards, "free-lubricating" power steering box,"aero" rocker panels,self-adjusting mirrors.
email me at hansford@4x4wire.com
The Montero-Raider Website
4x4Wire's Mitsu Section
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93 Pajero 2800 turbo diesel: "Ol'Betsy #5"
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Anonymous
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quote:
Originally posted by PHIL:
What about stock four door springs? Are they any higher than stock 2 door springs? If so, it might be a great chance to "recycle" for us 2 door guys, by swapping in some discarded 4 door coils you guys have lying around! (Sure beats rubber boosters)PHIL
I have an extra set of stock springs from my 4 door 95 Montero! As far as VSW springs I had to replace mine because I was bottoming out!! VSW made me a thicker spring!! the rear sits a little higher now but the springs are great!!!
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Paul G. North
95 Montero SR
Rear Locker
3.5 DOHC
2.5" Valley Springs rear
2" Torsion bars front
33x12.5 BFG AT's
Primax 8.5" 370 rims
Thule roof rack/basket
ARB bumper with Superwinch X9
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Anonymous
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Hey guys, thanks for the input.Paul, any idea if valley springs are currently shipping the updated thicker springs? Lloyd, I saw your post that mentioned parts for sale. But you stated the springs were for heavy duty towing. I don't want to end up with a stiffer "dump truck" ride. If they are the regular springs, how much are you asking for the set? Alan, could you tell me which company sells the Pedders? Steve ------------------
'89 raider 2.6l 5spd
garaged while i play with the '93
'93 montero std
trimmed bump stops
torsion bar lift
arb locker
32" m/t's [This message has been edited by fish (edited 29 August 2000).]
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Anonymous
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Paul, any idea if valley springs are currently shipping the updated thicker springs? Fish, VSW has always had the thicker springs!
I let them know that I was bottoming out with the 1st set they had made for me and they made the thicker springs for me! they can make any spring you want....
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AlanMc
Wheeler
Reged: 03/13/00
Posts: 243
Loc: Grenada W.I.
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Fish I ordered my coils from http://motorcare.com.au/ ------------------
1993 V6 2Door
33x12.5 cooper discoverer STT
15x7" American racing rim
2" Pedders rear coils
k & N air filter
ARB Snorkel
ARB Compressor & tire inflation kit
ARB rear Locker
Warn XD9000i winch
Custom winch bar
Torsion bar lift in front
longer Rancho Rs9000 shocks
Sway bars removed
My 2nd. Pajero
Surco Roof rack
http://www.4x4wire.com/mitsubishi/featured_mitsu/mcintyre/
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1993 Pajero 3.0 V6 5 speed locked and lifted with 35"
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Augie
Body Damage is Cool
Reged: 12/23/99
Posts: 2329
Loc: Ohio
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Paul or anybody that have the stock laying around could you give me the unloaded dimension of your stock coil? I need the height, diameter of the spiral and diameter of the material to start looking at the junkyard see if Ford or 2wd chevy truck front spring could be used. I know Lloyd would jump here and say they are all crap but if the price is right who cares and if that works it sure beat the hell of dealing with VSW crappy customer service.
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Originally posted by pnorth:
Fish, VSW has always had the thicker springs!
I let them know that I was bottoming out with the 1st set they had made for me and they made the thicker springs for me! they can make any spring you want....
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Augie
Body Damage is Cool
Reged: 12/23/99
Posts: 2329
Loc: Ohio
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I found the coil spec in my manual
wire dia 14.2-15.8 mm (0.56-0.62")
O.D. 160.2-161.8 MM (6.31-6.37")
FREE LENGTH 404.5 MM (15.93")
SPRING CONSTANT 27-39 N/mm (151-218 lbs/in)They must have a huge preload since my rear coil looks less than 10" tall sitting on the truck. So if you want to order one from VSW you might want a progressive spring from say 220 to 250 lbs/in for 15% higher rate. You could not just add 2-3 inch to the free length since it varies with the material and thickness. Surprisingly the coil have very close spec to Jeep XJ/ZJ front spring. Too bad they have different type of pig tail build to them.
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