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69442
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(Rock Warrior)
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03/29/09 02:18 PM
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01 sportage 4" susp lift
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I am new to this forum and have been reading many posts regarding susp lift. upyourkia has been very helpfull but several of you have mentioned a guy named Dave Scott who suposedly supplies a true 4" lift spring kit. How do you reach this guy?
Rick
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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go to his profile here and send a PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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i think he is also in the vendors section.
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69442
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(Rock Warrior)
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03/30/09 10:58 AM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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Thanks, I found him. When I'm able to start this build, I'll post some pics.
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69442
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(Rock Warrior)
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04/05/09 09:28 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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I spoke to Everet today and have decided to go with his UPYOURKIA 4" susp lift kit. It consists of front spring spacers, front sway extensions, rear TJ (wrangler) springs, rear bump stops & rear shock bushings for the RAV4 shocks that I will purchase on my own. I will be posting before, during & after pics to show the process. I must say, Everet's pricing is very reasonable and those of you who haven't done so should really look into this!
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69442
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(Rock Warrior)
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04/16/09 12:32 AM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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Just got a e-mail from FedEx, Santa is on his way with my upyourkia lift kit!! If all goes well, should have it in this weekend. I'll post some pics of the process, hopefully no blood involved! 
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k120189
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(Wheeler)
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04/16/09 10:33 AM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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yea everet has real quick shipping took two days to get here from cali..and im on the east coast. took me a long time to get the lift in tho..almost 5 hours. then again i had a happy hammer friend and had to take a few trips for new nuts and bolts...do yourself a favor and replace them all when u do the lift..the nuts will strip
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69442
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(Rock Warrior)
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04/16/09 10:49 AM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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So what is that, roughly a couple hours per side in the front,the rears should be easy as hell. My original thought was that it should take me somewhere between a 6 pack and a half rack to complete!! 
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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So what is that, roughly a couple hours per side in the front,the rears should be easy as hell. My original thought was that it should take me somewhere between a 6 pack and a half rack to complete!!
The rear ones are pretty fast and easy going in, the front ones can be a real pita getting everything back together. I ended up tearing a boot on one of the front halfaxles and still need to repair that.
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69442
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(Rock Warrior)
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04/17/09 07:38 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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Got my upyourkia 4" lift kit today plus needed shocks & struts. Now I have to find time to tear it apart and get dirty!! I'll post some picks and comments about my experience with the process.
Thanks Everet 
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Hydra747
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(Roll Me Over)
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04/17/09 08:13 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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Congrats on the UPURKIA lift
Did not know that it is 4"........Awesome work Everet
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k120189
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(Wheeler)
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04/17/09 08:27 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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yup i have one of everets 4 inch installed as well..if you have some questions give me a hollar im also on aim as idrift240s
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69442
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(Rock Warrior)
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04/21/09 10:40 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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Thanks, I'm gonna give it a go this thursday evening so I can have it aligned by saturday. Got a lot of beer on hand and a couple of buddy's who want to stupervise!!
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Dryver
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(Wheeler)
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04/22/09 05:26 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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I got the 3" lift from Everet. Did the back end last weekend, but didn't have time to get to the front yet, so I'm ass-up for the moment.  Hope to finish it this weekend.
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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The front should not be that hard to get back together and I never had to use a hammer.
1st, Make sure your lower A-arms bolts are loose at the frame.
2nd, Make sure your sway bar is disconeted.
3rd, Make sure you leave your top bolts loose where the spacers bolts onto the strut tower untill you get the four bolts on top of the strut fork tight.
4th, leave the bottom nut on the strut fork loose and install the top inside nut and bolt first on the top of the fork and with a prybar, pry on the strut to push the rest of the bolts in.
5th, tighten everything up.
Hope this helps, Dennis
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69442
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(Rock Warrior)
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04/22/09 07:35 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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The front should not be that hard to get back together and I never had to use a hammer.
1st, Make sure your lower A-arms bolts are loose at the frame.
2nd, Make sure your sway bar is disconeted.
3rd, Make sure you leave your top bolts loose where the spacers bolts onto the strut tower untill you get the four bolts on top of the strut fork tight.
4th, leave the bottom nut on the strut fork loose and install the top inside nut and bolt first on the top of the fork and with a prybar, pry on the strut to push the rest of the bolts in.
5th, tighten everything up.
Hope this helps, Dennis
Thanks for that!! Sounds like you've done this a few times and figured out how to make it a little easier on yourself. I'm tearing into mine tomorrow and will refer to this as I go
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Everet
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(Body Damage is Cool)
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04/22/09 08:30 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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Dennis is the KING of UPYOURKIA SPACERS!!! He invented them.
Everet
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Dryver
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(Wheeler)
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04/23/09 05:22 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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Preliminary step done. Everything is soaking in PB Blaster.
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1st, Make sure your lower A-arms bolts are loose at the frame.
Just to clarify, I need to loosen both of the large bolts/nuts holding each lower A-arm to the frame. Any chance I can get away without doing this step since I have the 3" lift rather than the 4"? If not, what size are those nuts, and how large of a breaker bar should I be looking at to loosen those suckers?
Also, Everet, my coworker and I came up with a suggestion to modify the UpYourKia spacers that may make installation easier, if it's feasible. Instead of welding the bolts to the spacer, how about welding nuts instead and drop the bolts from the top of the shock towers to tighten into weld nuts on the spacers? This would give you 7/8" more clearance to get everything back into place during install.
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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The lower a-arm is very hard to push down far enough to get the strut back in with the spacer, The rubber bushings are tight. You can get by with the 3" but it will be easer with them loose.
Dennis
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Everet
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(Body Damage is Cool)
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04/24/09 12:16 AM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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I'll look into the nut idea. Your right in that it could aid in the ease of installation.
Everet
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xjeepr
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(Wheeler)
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04/24/09 12:42 AM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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I just had the 2.5" spacers & fought with mine for close to an hour before I decided to drop out the ball joint. Went together really easy after that. If I ever do it again, that's the way I do it for sure .
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69442
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(Rock Warrior)
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04/24/09 08:59 AM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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Quote:
I just had the 2.5" spacers & fought with mine for close to an hour before I decided to drop out the ball joint. Went together really easy after that. If I ever do it again, that's the way I do it for sure .
Thanks for that xjeeper, I got'r all torn down last night and plan on putting it back together tonight so that bit of info should come in handy.
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k120189
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(Wheeler)
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04/24/09 11:37 AM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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yea i used a hammer on mine cause my friend was in a bol stripping mood so i didnt even want to let him near the lower a arm. i did all steps but that one. and we just gave it a good nudge wit a hammer
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taking the upper ball joint off the spindle by taking the nut out and poping the upper control arm free i didnt have to losten any of the big control arm bolts. 
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Dryver
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(Wheeler)
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04/25/09 07:26 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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Okay, I didn't get very far on the front spacer install. The nuts on top of the struts are completely frozen despite the PB Blaster. I think I've effectively rounded all three of them on the driver's side at this point. I'm debating cutting or grinding them off with a dremel-type tool, or looking for a nut splitter. Anyone have any better ideas to offer?
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69442
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(Rock Warrior)
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04/25/09 07:56 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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I O/H'd my struts yesterday and didn't need any lubricants, I guess I was lucky. I didn't have any issues until re-assembly with the 2" spacer!! 
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Hydra747
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(Roll Me Over)
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05/07/09 05:44 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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I O/H'd my struts yesterday and didn't need any lubricants, I guess I was lucky. I didn't have any issues until re-assembly with the 2" spacer!!
What happened? 
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69442
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(Rock Warrior)
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05/07/09 06:42 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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Still waiting for some technical part sleuthing by Everet!
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londart
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(Wheeler)
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05/07/09 09:17 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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which struts did you go with...and part #s
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69442
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(Rock Warrior)
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05/07/09 11:23 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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which struts did you go with...and part #s
Monroe SensaTracs #71562 & #71563. Went with these because somebody posted that KYB's were a little too stiff! So, are you looking into something regarding the part #'s?
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69442
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(Rock Warrior)
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05/11/09 08:42 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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Quote:
which struts did you go with...and part #s
Sent you a PM regarding the subject!
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69442
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(Rock Warrior)
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05/11/09 11:27 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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What happened?
Now I'm thinking it may be easier to lower my Sportage than to lift it! 
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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are you still having trouble????
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69442
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(Rock Warrior)
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05/11/09 11:34 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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Quote:
are you still having trouble????
Yep!
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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that sucks what is holding you up,the strut mount or the sway bar? if the short cut isnt working maybe the lower control arm should come off too then use the jack to put it back in.
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69442
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(Rock Warrior)
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05/11/09 11:52 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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After i couldn't make it work i had a buddy of mine give it a go who specializes in custom lifts and fabrication. He tried for hours and concluded there flat out wasn't enough lwr control arm movement to make it work. The strut/fork assy is bound against the drive axle with 1" still to go!! Then, even if somehow you were able to pry it together, how would you ever service your susp?? There is some speculation that Monroe struts (brand i purchased) are bigger than stock but i ain't buyin it. Unfortunately i tossed my old struts before the problem so i have nothing to compare to. So like my wife always says, I guess I'll have to settle for 3" 
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Hydra747
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(Roll Me Over)
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05/11/09 11:57 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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What happened?
Now I'm thinking it may be easier to lower my Sportage than to lift it!
NOPE!
If u lower it....u better have the right size of shims to support the faulty error rate of angle in suspension as well as caster/camber issues to be corrected....
.....if not then kiss ur tires goodnight!
What exactly happened with the LIFT?
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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from top the spacer ring to the bottom spacer ring how tall is it???????
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69442
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(Rock Warrior)
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05/12/09 12:17 AM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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from top the spacer ring to the bottom spacer ring how tall is it???????
If you're asking how big the spacer is, it's 2".
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Dryver
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(Wheeler)
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05/12/09 08:03 AM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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My lift turned into a relative nightmare, too. 100K of Ohio driving on salty roads turned most of my front end into a rusted hulk. I got the rear in without too much issue, but after I determined I didn't have all the right tools necessary to do the front, I took it to a shop.
They ended up having to replace the upper control arms and struts. I already knew I needed struts as one of them was leaking. Then to do the alignment, they had to replace the inner and outer tie rod ends and sleeves. They also pulled the lower control arms off entirely to put in my spacers.
Cost me a heckuva lot more than I was planning on to do this lift, but I now have a new front end given that I just had a new driveshaft, hubs and halfshafts installed under warranty from Kia. Goes well with the new fuel tank and lines I put in a month or so back.
Now I just need to trim my wheel arch to get the 31" tires to clear. I was planning on just going with 235/75/15 on stock rims but found a good deal on some Centerlines with 31's already installed, so....
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69442
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(Rock Warrior)
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05/12/09 09:36 AM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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My front end came apart and went back together w/o the spacers very easily so no issues there at all. I'm not seeing how removing the lower control arm would help but maybe removing the drive axles would? I'll re-visit that idea and see where it takes me, thanks for the input.
Anybody have any thoughts on this idea? I was thinking with the axles out of the way I would have the needed room to line everything up and the lwr control arm would have more flexibility as well!! After the spacer was in and the strut was buttoned up I could then reinstall the axles. Not sure if this is even possible, input needed here before I open up another can of worms!!
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69442
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(Rock Warrior)
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05/12/09 06:29 PM
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Re: 01 sportage 4" susp lift
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My lift turned into a relative nightmare, too. I took it to a shop. They also pulled the lower control arms off entirely to put in my spacers.
I'll call your trusty mechanic tomorrow to absorb needed knowledge!!
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