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Mark's says it's for a 2.6L conversion - wonder if it'll work with a 3.0L rig?

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I don't see why it wouldn't because the automatic bellhousings swap back and forth between a 4 and 6 cyl.

How much power would a S/C'd 3.8 yield as opposed to a bigger displacement N/A motor...

I just want to swap something!

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Hello Frank,
Thank you for your inquiry.
Unfortunately, we do not manufacture a kit to suit V6 Pajero's. We only manufacture kits for the Mitsubishi 2.6 litre, 4- cylinder
petrol engine (carby model), as well as the 2.5 litre 4 cylinder diesel
engine.
I do not know of any companies that do make such a kit.
I'm sorry I could not be of further help on this matter.

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Edit: I just realized the commodore motor is a Toyota based motor.

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The kit is designed to allow the GM V6 engine and (TH700R-4) 4 speed automatic transmission to be fitted to the original transfer case.

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What kind of truck is she standing next to. At first I thought it was a pajero. It is not like one I have ever seen. The tailights are different. The gas filler door is on the right side of the truck. The rear door hinges are different and a few other things pop out.

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I've posted here before that an Isuzu bell housing can be used to bolt a Mitsu auto trans to a GM supercharged 3800 or any other GM motor with the V6 bolt pattern. I don't have all the particulars right now, but if you search, I've posted all the particulars before. Seems like, IIRC, it's a bellhousing from a pick-up.

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I think it needs to be a BH from an Isuzu A340H. The Isuzu's had a variant of the Aisin transmissions that are common to our trucks, and yes, even the Jeep AW4. I've also heard that some Jeep 2.5's were backed by AW4s. If that's true, then they should have the 60 degree GM pattern as well.

For more info, search the Isuzu forums. I know Houlster has discussed it and his rig is sporting a SC 3.8.

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Bottom line is that there are ALL SORTS of swap options, but most everyone is too wuss to do any of them.

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Agreed. Its amazing how many good solid upgrades you can do with Junkyard parts and not just engine swaps either.

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Seriously. There has been SO much development just since I have been in the Montero/Raider world.
In NO particular order.

Thai Gen 1 / Montero Sport lift
Supercharger development
DOUBLE TRANSFER CASES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Crawler gears for Mitsu Boxes
NP231 swap in a Gen1 which no one will tackle.
Numerous Solid Axle swaps
ARB front lockers
Montero Sport axle into Gen1 4 cyl's
Montero SR axle into Gen1 v6's
Diesel swaps
Numerous 4.3 swaps
AND I'm sure I am forgetting some.

Motor mounts are SIMPLE SIMPLE to make compared to repowering your vehicle. IF the doner motor BOLTS to the transmission, then making motor mounts are easy!!!! The engine will show you RIGHT where they go!!!. Chances are you can buy 2 different styles of mounts, and weld them together to make a hybrid mount.

Maybe I should take my motor out, and build a jig and start producing 4.3 motor mounts. I'd prob sell 3 sets ever.

We've not done too shabby for ourselfs, and I for one am tired of hearing people complain about lack of after market support. We've got an awesome team here, and I am very impressed by the self engineering, and supplier campaigning that some folks have done.

Get a tape measure, and go to the junkyard. It's amazing what fits when you try.

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Who are you talking to? I don't think anyone's complained about anything in this thread. Quit your whining

Btw, not everyone has the awesome fabrication skills you posses.

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Who are you talking to? I don't think anyone's complained about anything in this thread. Quit your whining

Btw, not everyone has the awesome fabrication skills you posses.

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Shouldn't you be out lowering your car?

when are you going to get another Gen1?

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Shouldn't you be out lowering your car?

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I lowered mine tonight...... took off the 32" M/Ts and installed low rider junkyard 235/75/15s on bored out Isuzu wheels.

That's a mod, isn't it?

It dang sure moves out now. Just a li'l more boost and I think I could do wheelies.

Frank

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NP231 swap in a Gen1 which no one will tackle.

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This one is on my short list. I'm waiting for a tranny to become available. As soon as Off-Roader get's his busted tranny out, I'll pick it up and start the next medium sized project.

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Shouldn't you be out lowering your car?

when are you going to get another Gen1?

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I would lower it, but there just isn't enough aftermarket support!

A Gen 1? I've got one already... Who knows, I've got some life goals to tackle first.

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Got your priorities straight!! GJ

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Yesterday, we bought a '95 Riviera with the 3.8L S/C engine. I was ready to pull the engine until I realized that the '95 was the last year of the Series I S/C engine with the M-62 blower. The Series II N/A started production in '95, but didn't appear with the S/C package until '96...... so I'll wait until the right one appears to get the improved engine, M-90 blower and ~50HP more.

The engine looks like a nice low-profile package with a high-mount alternator.

Frank

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Wow, so you're pretty serious about this.. I am too but it I can't even think about it for a few years.

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4) blower intake manifold - can it be adapted to work for RWD - maybe by cutting/welding closed the rear-mount thermostat housing and converting to a remote mount water box for the thermostat and coolant temperature senders/switches.

5) blower inlet - probably necessary to replace the blower with a standard M-90 so the throttle body can be relocated.

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1) engine mounts - probably not a big deal, just a fabrication job.

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2) exhaust manifolds - possible solutions include the Firebird/Camaro 3.8L manifolds or aftermarket headers for the Firebird/Camaro variants.

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3) A/C compressor - question if it'll work with the Mitsu system or if it would be necessary to adapt a bracket to mount the Mitsu compressor.

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4) blower intake manifold - can it be adapted to work for RWD - maybe by cutting/welding closed the rear-mount thermostat housing and converting to a remote mount water box for the thermostat and coolant temperature senders/switches.

5) blower inlet - probably necessary to replace the blower with a standard M-90 so the throttle body can be relocated..

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6) transmission - don't know how the ECU will react to not having the electronic controlled transmission reporting to it.... maybe necessary to use a GM transmission.

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What would you think about getting the components from a RWD Aussie car?

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Good idea if I can find just the blower and intake manifold for shipping to the States. It's a nice package they put in the RWD Holden:


It looks like the intake manifold on the Commodore routes the water box to the radiator upper hose on the wrong side for the 3.0L, but maybe I could use a 2.6L radiator.... otherwise, I can probably modify a transverse engine's intake to use a remote water box.

The conversion kit is for a N/A 3.8L and TH700 into a 2.6L. Since the bellhousing of the Isuzu truck reportedly will mate to both the GM 3.8L AND the AW372L, I saw the possibility of going a step further to the blower version, given the availability of the transverse mounted blower variants here.

The engine mounts alone aren't worth the price of the conversion kit, particularly since they're for a 2.6L - not a 3.0L. If you look at the kit components, there's not much other than the transmission-to-Mitsu t-case adapter that's worth buying. Everything else is easily available or can be fabricated without special equipment. Why buy a TH700 and go to the extra work if the engine can be easily mated to the AW transmission?

IOW, the only value in the kit appears to be for a combination of a 2.6L and a TH700 transmission. It seems to make more sense to me to try to use the AW-372L and adapt things to work with the package.... paticularly if Eddy is correct that the AW transmission can handle 300 lb-ft of torque.

The Series II blower variant with 260HP and 280 lb-ft would be a terrific package in a Gen1 - particularly if it can be adapted to the AW-372L transmission with the Isuzu bellhousing. The rest of the stuff would require some engineering, but it's work that can be done on the stand or bench.... and I like that sort of work.

I think I'd really like that package if it'll work. But I don't yet know that it will for sure.

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What about the old buick regal/gnx turbo motors? Then you could quit having to fab the whole top of the motor.

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Eddy, I guess I just like blowers..... and the more I learn about them and from driving mine, the better I like them. The whine is addicting - as is the power.

Frank

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unless the '92-'94 Mitsu transmission is electronically controlled..... is it?

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A little further research and I see that the AW4 transmission control unit doesn't require an interface with the engine control unit - interesting. So, I assume Houlster's setup for manual gear selection only was intentional.

He's also done the 3800S/C swap into his Amigo, running it on MS and resolving the throttle body location issue by using a Lightning M112 blower.... then adding water injection and playing with propane injection......

Kudos to him - he's crazier than I am :

S/C 3800 Install

Frank

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That's wicked, it looks like he took what you did to another level!

I can't wait to get my hands on a project of my own. Want to lend me your garage for a year or so frank?

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2) swapping in a '92-'94 Mitsu A/T if the Isuzu bellhousing works..... and if the electronic contols can be modified to work with the 3.8L ECU.... and if the shifters can be located in the OE position.
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