Today, I think I got some insight into why I enjoy 4x4wire. In this morning's snowstorm, I was one of only two people who showed up at work.... and I was there at my usual time, well before we opened. I saw not only the benefit of having a reliable, capable vehicle, but the experience to drive it confidently and the desire to get a job done at work.

Most here are at least trying to be a little self-sufficient and/or self-reliant when it comes to DIY projects. Yes, most of them are auto-mechanical related, but not all. I suspect the qualities of self-reliance, accountability and responsibility are becoming somewhat a thing of the past.

I don't care if we have a gun forum or not - there are plenty of those forums around with a lot more knowledge and experience than is contained here. If I wanted to know how to resolve a rifle issue, I could certainly find better places to ask questions. However; the company might not be as congenial..... or might not share other similar values. Sometimes, a chat with buddies (internet or otherwise) is preferable to a bunch of knowledgeable jerks...... and sometimes it might be a chat that would interest someone in something he wouldn't normally get involved with and result in a broadening of horizons.

Internet forums are a little like life. When I was a young fella, I ran from bar to bar looking for the pretty girls. Later, I learned to conserve energy, pick a good spot and wait for them to pass by.

Frank